D-Trains Off season plan

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:28 pm

I like Donovan, but it seems like there's a lot of weak moves in response to adding Skubal.

I don't get adding Skubal if it weakens the roster you're going to put around him.

I'd rather keep Kirby if it means I can add Donovan at 3B and Murakami at 1B or something like that.

Williamson really shouldn't be anywhere near this roster...

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:35 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:28 pm
I like Donovan, but it seems like there's a lot of weak moves in response to adding Skubal.

I don't get adding Skubal if it weakens the roster you're going to put around him.

I'd rather keep Kirby if it means I can add Donovan at 3B and Murakami at 1B or something like that.

Williamson really shouldn't be anywhere near this roster...
How does it weaken your roster. You are trading a #3 for and Ace. Can't have a 6 man rotation with those guys.
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:36 pm

Murikami had a .105 BA on fastball over 93 mph. We will run a 40% k rate and will be luck to be Joey Gallo.
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:42 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:35 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:28 pm
I like Donovan, but it seems like there's a lot of weak moves in response to adding Skubal.

I don't get adding Skubal if it weakens the roster you're going to put around him.

I'd rather keep Kirby if it means I can add Donovan at 3B and Murakami at 1B or something like that.

Williamson really shouldn't be anywhere near this roster...
How does it weaken your roster. You are trading a #3 for and Ace. Can't have a 6 man rotation with those guys.
I just don't see a roster with an unknown at 1B and Williamson at 3B complimenting the pitching staff in the way we need it to.

I'd like to add more sure things and keep the staff where it is than add Skubal and inevitably be trying to figure out what we're going to do at 3B and 1B at the AS break like we do every year.

I don't have faith Williamson or Okamoto at all.

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:44 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:14 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:53 pm
I don't think 3 years of Kirby for 1 year of Skubal makes sense. I'm not opposed to trading Kirby but that seems pretty one-sided to me. It's definitely a good deal for the Tigers though.

I like Skubal, but I don't think he's prime Pedro or anything like that. He's hittable. The Mariners hit him decently this year.
Well Don thinks it's a dumb idea for the Tigers and you think it's a dumb idea for the Mariners so I feel pretty good about it LOL
I like Abner!
He looks like a stud BP guy CC for years!

B Donavan has been in many plans for a few years,

But bringing the ACE Kirby really hurts and even 1 year hurts you: I had Miller, Anderson, + going for him and stuff but what if we could go all prospects and flip Luis for salary dump:
1. Skubal*
2. Kirby
3. Gilbert
4. Woo
5. Miller :D

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:52 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:32 pm
Their motivation would be if they think they can still make the playoffs with Kirby and then at the end of next season they have two more years of him instead of a lame late first round comp pick
I understand the logic but honestly, if the mariners had made it as far as the tigers with the best pitcher in baseball would you be happy with trading him for three years of Kirby rather than using him for one additional year of seriously trying for it?

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:57 pm

BTW, MLBTV updated their trade values today.

Miller is now at $30.1M.

If Miller could be traded at this value alongside a couple good prospects. I'd do that for Skubal.

Ford and Anderson also got big bumps in their value.

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:04 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:42 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:35 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:28 pm
I like Donovan, but it seems like there's a lot of weak moves in response to adding Skubal.

I don't get adding Skubal if it weakens the roster you're going to put around him.

I'd rather keep Kirby if it means I can add Donovan at 3B and Murakami at 1B or something like that.

Williamson really shouldn't be anywhere near this roster...
How does it weaken your roster. You are trading a #3 for and Ace. Can't have a 6 man rotation with those guys.
I just don't see a roster with an unknown at 1B and Williamson at 3B complimenting the pitching staff in the way we need it to.

I'd like to add more sure things and keep the staff where it is than add Skubal and inevitably be trying to figure out what we're going to do at 3B and 1B at the AS break like we do every year.

I don't have faith Williamson or Okamoto at all.
Sure I get that. Too bad we don't have a ownership group that wants to win.
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:07 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:57 pm
BTW, MLBTV updated their trade values today.

Miller is now at $30.1M.

If Miller could be traded at this value alongside a couple good prospects. I'd do that for Skubal.

Ford and Anderson also got big bumps in their value.
lol did they see Anderson throwing a bullpen in his back yard and he was up to 95mph or something?
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:41 pm

What's Donovan's trade value? What does a Miller for Donovan trade look like?

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