Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by Mesully11 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:30 pm

Already this is the best off-season in a long time!
Hopefully there will be more good adds to come.
We have a long way to go til spring.

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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:25 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:40 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:30 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:14 pm


You'd think that these owners would have enough foresight to realize how much a championship could do for their bottom line long term and jump on this opportunity. They have an opportunity to build the fan base and make a whole generation of youngsters loyal life time fans.

I am sure they have done the math and determined that the demand is inelastic. A lot of fans will be there no matter what. Also they may have other investment opportunities that they think will net a higher ROI.
That's the weird part about it. Pro-Sports is profitable but the returns are nowhere near what could be made even with just normal investing in the Market. Nobody buys a sports team for the investment. They buy it because they like the sport. You'd think someone who was willing to lose out on financial opportunity for the novelty of being a sports owner would also have the drive to make that team a champion. but what do I know. I am just a peon hoping that my Roth IRA grows enough so that I can retire by age 60. I think one of the problems could be that there is an ownership group rather than a single owner. Its a lot harder to get everyone on board for spending when you have 17 owners that need to come to some agreement.
I retired at 57 yo. Btw because I have no income, I qualified for Apple Health which is Medicaid. They asked no questions about my assets. I pay no premiums or out of pocket costs. Free healthcare until I am 65 yo and qualify for Medicare. Millionaire on Medicaid lol....I am starting to like this Washington Socialism. lol
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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by Captain 97 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:05 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:25 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:40 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:30 pm


I am sure they have done the math and determined that the demand is inelastic. A lot of fans will be there no matter what. Also they may have other investment opportunities that they think will net a higher ROI.
That's the weird part about it. Pro-Sports is profitable but the returns are nowhere near what could be made even with just normal investing in the Market. Nobody buys a sports team for the investment. They buy it because they like the sport. You'd think someone who was willing to lose out on financial opportunity for the novelty of being a sports owner would also have the drive to make that team a champion. but what do I know. I am just a peon hoping that my Roth IRA grows enough so that I can retire by age 60. I think one of the problems could be that there is an ownership group rather than a single owner. Its a lot harder to get everyone on board for spending when you have 17 owners that need to come to some agreement.
I retired at 57 yo. Btw because I have no income, I qualified for Apple Health which is Medicaid. They asked no questions about my assets. I pay no premiums or out of pocket costs. Free healthcare until I am 65 yo and qualify for Medicare. Millionaire on Medicaid lol....I am starting to like this Washington Socialism. lol
I am in better position than a lot of my peers. My Dad got me started in a roth at age 18 and its done well. I'm 46. Iv'e done the math and if the market matches historical averages for the next 14 years and if inflation averages about 3% over the next 14 years, I should be able to retire at 60 with about 125% of my pay and have enough to guarantee I don't run out until age 100. There are a lot of "ifs" in there though LOL.

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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by D-train » Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:19 am

Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:05 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:25 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:40 pm


That's the weird part about it. Pro-Sports is profitable but the returns are nowhere near what could be made even with just normal investing in the Market. Nobody buys a sports team for the investment. They buy it because they like the sport. You'd think someone who was willing to lose out on financial opportunity for the novelty of being a sports owner would also have the drive to make that team a champion. but what do I know. I am just a peon hoping that my Roth IRA grows enough so that I can retire by age 60. I think one of the problems could be that there is an ownership group rather than a single owner. Its a lot harder to get everyone on board for spending when you have 17 owners that need to come to some agreement.
I retired at 57 yo. Btw because I have no income, I qualified for Apple Health which is Medicaid. They asked no questions about my assets. I pay no premiums or out of pocket costs. Free healthcare until I am 65 yo and qualify for Medicare. Millionaire on Medicaid lol....I am starting to like this Washington Socialism. lol
I am in better position than a lot of my peers. My Dad got me started in a roth at age 18 and its done well. I'm 46. Iv'e done the math and if the market matches historical averages for the next 14 years and if inflation averages about 3% over the next 14 years, I should be able to retire at 60 with about 125% of my pay and have enough to guarantee I don't run out until age 100. There are a lot of "ifs" in there though LOL.
You can always become and Uber driver like me. I absolutely LOVE it. Talk to people from all walks of life and listen to sports radio when nobody is in the car or I have a B personality passenger which is about 1/3 of the time. I drive whenever I want. Just turn off the app when I want to go out to lunch or go camping. I usually drive 7 days a week a few hours a day and make about $100 a day which pays my $3100 a month rent (house in Boston is being rented out on a lease option that pays my mortgage and will sell May 2027)
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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by D-train » Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:45 am

Wow, it keeps getting better. We have about $20M to spend still this season.
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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by GL_Storm » Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:28 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:45 am
Wow, it keeps getting better. We have about $20M to spend still this season.
That's a decent amount and they can still move money around.

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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by desbcoach » Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:47 am

Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:05 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:25 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:40 pm


That's the weird part about it. Pro-Sports is profitable but the returns are nowhere near what could be made even with just normal investing in the Market. Nobody buys a sports team for the investment. They buy it because they like the sport. You'd think someone who was willing to lose out on financial opportunity for the novelty of being a sports owner would also have the drive to make that team a champion. but what do I know. I am just a peon hoping that my Roth IRA grows enough so that I can retire by age 60. I think one of the problems could be that there is an ownership group rather than a single owner. Its a lot harder to get everyone on board for spending when you have 17 owners that need to come to some agreement.
I retired at 57 yo. Btw because I have no income, I qualified for Apple Health which is Medicaid. They asked no questions about my assets. I pay no premiums or out of pocket costs. Free healthcare until I am 65 yo and qualify for Medicare. Millionaire on Medicaid lol....I am starting to like this Washington Socialism. lol
I am in better position than a lot of my peers. My Dad got me started in a roth at age 18 and its done well. I'm 46. Iv'e done the math and if the market matches historical averages for the next 14 years and if inflation averages about 3% over the next 14 years, I should be able to retire at 60 with about 125% of my pay and have enough to guarantee I don't run out until age 100. There are a lot of "ifs" in there though LOL.
I retired at 46 bc of vision(ok they put me on disability) I collect 60% of my salary tax free. Then I collect pers 2 , 401k and SS , it is hard living on 10K a month but you figure it out

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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:18 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 3:51 pm
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 3:05 am
D-train wrote:
Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:51 pm


Good job Mariners. They went public that they wanted him back and then they made it happen early in the off season. Maybe they are learning. I predicted 5 x $90M. Seems I was close. Now sign Okamoto and trade for Donovan.
Why Okamoto? Give me Jarren Duran pretty please. Give them some pitching. Speed kills, guys can you imagine Julio & Duran at the top. Oh my word.
Because we need a 3B. Imagine the ask for a guy that put up 13.4 WAR the past two seasons, is only 28 yo with 3 years of control left. I would be shocked if he gets traded.
They have a logjam in the OF. Too many bodies no where to put them. I want Donovan too but how do we know he's long term. We need speed at the top, bottom line. We have pitching, they need pitching. Maybe throw in a middle infielder. It's not like we'd be trading for Soto here. All's you can do is inquire. You know damn well he'd be an improvement over what we have.

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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:19 am

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:18 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 3:51 pm
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 3:05 am


Why Okamoto? Give me Jarren Duran pretty please. Give them some pitching. Speed kills, guys can you imagine Julio & Duran at the top. Oh my word.
Because we need a 3B. Imagine the ask for a guy that put up 13.4 WAR the past two seasons, is only 28 yo with 3 years of control left. I would be shocked if he gets traded.
They have a logjam in the OF. Too many bodies no where to put them. I want Donovan too but how do we know he's long term. We need speed at the top, bottom line. We have pitching, they need pitching. Maybe throw in a middle infielder. It's not like we'd be trading for Soto here. All's you can do is inquire. You know damn well he'd be an improvement over what we have.
What does "how do we know he's long term" mean?

He's controlled for the next 3 years cheaply.

I really don't care what happens after that.

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Re: Mariners finalizing 5 year contract with Josh Naylor

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:46 am

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:18 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 3:51 pm
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Tue Nov 18, 2025 3:05 am


Why Okamoto? Give me Jarren Duran pretty please. Give them some pitching. Speed kills, guys can you imagine Julio & Duran at the top. Oh my word.

Because we need a 3B. Imagine the ask for a guy that put up 13.4 WAR the past two seasons, is only 28 yo with 3 years of control left. I would be shocked if he gets traded.
They have a logjam in the OF. Too many bodies no where to put them. I want Donovan too but how do we know he's long term. We need speed at the top, bottom line. We have pitching, they need pitching. Maybe throw in a middle infielder. It's not like we'd be trading for Soto here. All's you can do is inquire. You know damn well he'd be an improvement over what we have.
Durans name comes up a lot these days
Rookie of the Year finalist Roman Anthony isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. However, both Wilyer Abreu and Jarren Duran’s Boston futures are much more precarious. In fact, the Red Sox trading one of them away seems inevitable to Jeff Passan of ESPN.

“The Red Sox almost surely will deal one of them,” Passan wrote. “There aren’t enough at-bats in the lineup for both, especially if they add another bat in free agency.

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