Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by D-train » Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:26 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
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Mitch Garver will obviously find a job somewhere. It'll be a one-year deal, probably at $2 mil or something like that.
You would think he would just retire. I can't imagine he enjoyed his job much the past two seasons. Has plenty of money.
All of these guys are trying to get a full 10 years so they're fully vested in the pension plan. Even when they've made millions of dollars, it's totally a thing for major league players to try and hit that mark. It's like a badge of honor or something. Garver is at just over 8 years service time, and so probably he'll keep going for at least two more seasons, if he can, which shouldn't be a problem since the bar for backup catchers is so low.

But beyond getting the service time and the fully vested pension, I think these guys like to stick around for the simple reason that this is what they do. Baseball is literally all they know. They've worked at it since they were kids and now they have this small window in their lives to play at the very highest level. You and I may look at these average or lesser players and think "meh", but this is the major leagues and everybody at this level is an elite player. And once this chapter is over, what's next? What do you do?
Uber driver!!! :lol: Well yeah it is easy to get bored when you are retired but but with his money he could do a lot of traveling and playing golf instead of just going out to lunch a couple times a week like I do..
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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by harmony » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:01 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 6:56 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:10 am
Mitch Garver will obviously find a job somewhere. It'll be a one-year deal, probably at $2 mil or something like that.
You would think he would just retire. I can't imagine he enjoyed his job much the past two seasons. Has plenty of money.
Arizona has re-signed veteran catcher James McCann to a one-year, $2.75 million contract with an additional $500,000 in performance incentives.

FanGraphs projects McCann with a 2026 WAR of 0.5 in 53 games while projecting Mitch Garver, who is seven months younger, with a 2026 WAR of 0.6 in 57 games.

That close comp supports the Locked On Mariners' proposed one-year, $3 million contract for Garver (unless Luis Torrens or Jonah Heim is non-tendered).
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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by D-train » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:07 pm

harmony wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:01 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 6:56 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:10 am
Mitch Garver will obviously find a job somewhere. It'll be a one-year deal, probably at $2 mil or something like that.
You would think he would just retire. I can't imagine he enjoyed his job much the past two seasons. Has plenty of money.
Arizona has re-signed veteran catcher James McCann to a one-year, $2.75 million contract with $500,000 in performance incentives.

FanGraphs projects McCann with a 2026 WAR of 0.5 in 53 games while projecting Mitch Garver, who is seven months younger, with a 2026 WAR of 0.6 in 57 games.

That close comp supports the Locked On Mariners' proposed one-year, $3 million contract for Garver (unless Luis Torrens or Jonah Heim is non-tendered).
Ford is projected to put up 1 WAR making minimum was so why in the hell would we sign Garver???
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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by D-train » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:09 pm

Here are all of the projections for our hitters.

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.a ... &teamid=11
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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by harmony » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:16 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:07 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:01 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 6:56 pm


You would think he would just retire. I can't imagine he enjoyed his job much the past two seasons. Has plenty of money.
Arizona has re-signed veteran catcher James McCann to a one-year, $2.75 million contract with $500,000 in performance incentives.

FanGraphs projects McCann with a 2026 WAR of 0.5 in 53 games while projecting Mitch Garver, who is seven months younger, with a 2026 WAR of 0.6 in 57 games.

That close comp supports the Locked On Mariners' proposed one-year, $3 million contract for Garver (unless Luis Torrens or Jonah Heim is non-tendered).
Ford is projected to put up 1 WAR making minimum was so why in the hell would we sign Garver???
Perhaps because Harry Ford has far more value as a trade piece.

If Ford returns, the Mariners will have their backup catcher.

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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by GL_Storm » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:24 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:07 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:01 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 6:56 pm


You would think he would just retire. I can't imagine he enjoyed his job much the past two seasons. Has plenty of money.
Arizona has re-signed veteran catcher James McCann to a one-year, $2.75 million contract with $500,000 in performance incentives.

FanGraphs projects McCann with a 2026 WAR of 0.5 in 53 games while projecting Mitch Garver, who is seven months younger, with a 2026 WAR of 0.6 in 57 games.

That close comp supports the Locked On Mariners' proposed one-year, $3 million contract for Garver (unless Luis Torrens or Jonah Heim is non-tendered).
Ford is projected to put up 1 WAR making minimum was so why in the hell would we sign Garver???
In their offseason plan, they have Harry Ford going to the Nationals for Mackenzie Gore, which opens up the backup catcher role.

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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by harmony » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:50 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:24 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:07 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:01 pm

Arizona has re-signed veteran catcher James McCann to a one-year, $2.75 million contract with $500,000 in performance incentives.

FanGraphs projects McCann with a 2026 WAR of 0.5 in 53 games while projecting Mitch Garver, who is seven months younger, with a 2026 WAR of 0.6 in 57 games.

That close comp supports the Locked On Mariners' proposed one-year, $3 million contract for Garver (unless Luis Torrens or Jonah Heim is non-tendered).
Ford is projected to put up 1 WAR making minimum was so why in the hell would we sign Garver???
In their offseason plan, they have Harry Ford going to the Nationals for Mackenzie Gore, which opens up the backup catcher role.
It's worth noting that that this year the Washington Nationals finished last in fWAR from the catcher position (but for the Angels, a distant, distant last):

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &pagenum=1

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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by D-train » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:53 pm

I have a seen a lot of people wanted to have Cal DH more. I do not.
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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by D-train » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:55 pm

harmony wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:50 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:24 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:07 pm


Ford is projected to put up 1 WAR making minimum was so why in the hell would we sign Garver???
In their offseason plan, they have Harry Ford going to the Nationals for Mackenzie Gore, which opens up the backup catcher role.
It's worth noting that that this year the Washington Nationals finished last in fWAR from the catcher position (but for the Angels, a distant, distant last):

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &pagenum=1
So they are trading Castillo, right? I read some of the replies of Card fans on that site. Some reasonable replies but what do they think JC and Arroyo are in A ball. So easy to look them up if they have the internets...lol
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Re: Who had the best plan from the mariners podsters

Post by D-train » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:57 pm

I think they will keep both Castillo and Ford with the theme of Keeping the Band together that Jerry mentioned.
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