Postmortem - Seattle v Twin City Cemetary Club

[douche]

Ugly game, no question.

One thing that jumped out at me was Darnold being sacked and losing the ball. Yikes.

But we should all be accustomed to games like this. SEA either finds a way to lose in the most frustrating way imaginable, or they find a way to win in the most ridiculous way possible. Regardless, a person shouldn't be upset about a 26-0 victory.

[Michael K.]

Winning 26 to 0 and being upset. First world problems.
....and we are upset about winning 26 to 0? Yikes.

I'm not upset about winning or the score. I'm concerned about the offense when facing a good defense.
It will take more than that to win playoff games. Greg Olsen said it. It's one thing to avoid turnovers, but
you can't do it at the risk of being who you are. I understand winning is all there is, but at the same time,
you can't practice with live bullets and if you practice what we saw yesterday, that is what you become.
It will get beat when it counts.

What's funny is? I was the one getting hammered this offseason for saying this was what our offense would be, unless I am misremembering. But I also remember saying I hope our defense and run game are good enough to win this way. Yesterday was EXACTLY that....we did all we had to do to not only win the game, but win it comfortably. Again, picture how mad Husky fans were when we handed a shitty Wisconsin team opportunities to beat us by playing aggressive when it wasn't needed? The ONLY way Minnesota was gonna score was if their defense scored or we turned it over deep in our end. So? Why risk it?

The Vikings have a real good defense that is coached very well...and a real shitty offense with zero NFL QBs. Seemed like we did the smart thing, to me. Funny that I am the guy defending it.

[Michael K.]

Who are these mythical teams that supposedly have good defenses that we can't beat. If the Playoffs started today they'd be playing Tampa who they put up 35 points on and if they won that they'd be playing Chicago who has the 26th ranked Defense in The League.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/v ... me/dir/asc

We did beat a team with a good defense. And did it with halftime adjustments.

The Vikings are 10th in total defense, and only give up 15 yards a game more than us. That is pretty good considering they have a horseshit offense.

10th in Total Defense/Game
5th in Passing Defense/Game

Yeah, they suck. I don't get the angst either Captain. Their rushing defense is most likely hurt because teams spend the majority of the game running out the clock since the offense is that bad. Yet still top 10 over all.

[douche]

Sure glad Jason Myers plays for this team.

[D-train]

Where's the mobility. This dude is one & done. Bring on Milroe. How long is he supposed to wait. He can't be as bad, right. At least he can move. If the first read isn't there, TAKE OFF!!! Or better yet CHECK THE BALL DOWN!! That simple. 1 read & go. 2 sec clock in your head. There's a reason Darnolds nothing more than a journeyman collecting a paycheck. How many teams have gave up on him. What would he have looked like had he stayed in Minny with KOC. He is not the future don't worry.

You already know how Milroe will do vs. NFL offenses. You saw it yesterday with Brosner vs. our D. Milroe sucks. Sam has flaws but we are 9-3 and he had one of his receivers on pace to have 2000 yards before yesterday. Wanting a new QB right now is crazy especially wanting Milroe.

[Michael K.]

You already know how Milroe will do vs. NFL offenses. You saw it yesterday with Brosner vs. our D. Milroe sucks. Sam has flaws but we are 9-3 and he had one of his receivers on pace to have 2000 yards before yesterday. Wanting a new QB right now is crazy especially wanting Milroe.

I just can't get over how it's you and I defending the offense all of a sudden! They won the game going away and did more than enough to win. All I ever read in here is about how game plan this, the other team that, blah blah. They had ZERO reason to show ANYTHING yesterday. This game was over a few minutes after kickoff. If anyone watched the first quarter and thought the Vikings would muster any kind of a threat if it wasn't basically handed to them? We'll have to disagree.

The first regular season game I was told it was still the Pre-Season, and nothing but excuses for why the offense sucked, and why we only had 88 yards passing the first 58 plus minutes of football...but now we are supposed to open up the playbook in a game we won 26 to 0? This place cracks me up.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

What is disturbing is that Kubiak had no answers for what the Vikings D was doing other than to try to burn clock and minimize offensive plays. The O line is incapable of adjusting on the fly to pick up blitzing LBs (they just lack the athleticism) and Darnold is unable to escape the pocket or hold onto the football when he gets hit. The blueprint has been layed out for how to shut down the Seahawks' passing game.

[D-train]

What is disturbing is that Kubiak had no answers for what the Vikings D was doing other than to try to burn clock and minimize offensive plays. The O line is incapable of adjusting on the fly to pick up blitzing LBs (they just lack the athleticism) and Darnold is unable to escape the pocket or hold onto the football when he gets hit. The blueprint has been layed out for how to shut down the Seahawks' passing game.

Curios what team would you rather be a fan of than the Seahawks right now??

The Pats or Broncos who are frauds?

The 8-4 Jags who we beat on the road?

The 8-4 Chargers that lost 35-6 in their previous game prior to the Raiders game?

The 8-4 Colts who are reeling having lost 2 in a row?

The 8-4 Eagles who just lost at home to the Bears?

The Rams who just lost to a .500 team?

The Packers who Lost to the Giants a couple weeks ago?

Da Bears???

The 49ers and Brock Purdy??

Some people act like as Captain mentioned there is some mythical perfect team out there that wins by 30 points every week and never has shaky performances on either side of the ball. Sorry, there isn't.

[Michael K.]

What is disturbing is that Kubiak had no answers for what the Vikings D was doing other than to try to burn clock and minimize offensive plays.

Agree to disagree. They adjusted in the second half, and moved the ball pretty well. Again, why put the game at risk when there is no need to? What would you have said if they tried to run tempo and turned the ball over? It would have been incredibly stupid. So? They didn't do that. I imagine if the Vikings had at any point in time mounted a threat? They may have changed philosophies...but no one in here that is complaining would have been happy if they forced the issue for no reason. There was NO reason. This wasn't week one against SF, and a few weeks later in AZ, where their conservative approach felt stupid. This was the smart thing to do.

The O line is incapable of adjusting on the fly to pick up blitzing LBs (they just lack the athleticism) and Darnold is unable to escape the pocket or hold onto the football when he gets hit. The blueprint has been layed out for how to shut down the Seahawks' passing game.

Bradford is bad, but I don't agree with that assessment on the Line as a unit. We are still second only to Denver in sacks allowed per game at 1.3. What part of that screams change? Sure, some of that is because we don't pass that often, but for crying out loud, we have the best record in the NFC and people are talking about the Offense like we are dreadful after winning a laugher!

Again, be critical all you want, but if you watched that game and felt we should have pressed the issue against a Vikings Defense ranked fifth in the NFL against the pass? In a game we Won 26 to 0? Again, agree to disagree.

We are 9th in the NFL in yards per game.
18th in rushing per game, but a respectable 117 per game. We are 7 yards per game behind Atlanta who is 10th in the NFL.
9th in the NFL in passing yards per game.
4th in the NFL in points per game

We are 6th in the NFL in yards allowed per game.
3rd in the NFL in rushing yards allowed per game.
11th in the NFL in passing yards allowed per game. (pretty good since we are basically thrown on every down since teams are behind or can't run)
3rd in the NFL in points allowed per game.

If before the year, I told you we would be 4th in points allowed and 3rd in points scored....and told you many on this board would be pissed off at 9 and 3 after a 26 to 0 win. What would you have said?

If I told you many would be screaming about the O Line being dogshit, but we are second in sacks allowed and 9th in total offense? If I told you Sam Darnold would be completing 68% of his passes (6th in the NFL), 9 yards per attempt (1st in the NFL), be 7th in the NFL in yards per game at 242.8 and 7th in the NFL in rating at 103.1....would you believe that are not only people that want to replace him, but some want him replaced with Milroe!?

Dude, this is place is out of this world. I partially think I need to go back to bitching about JS, Kubiak and the offense so everyone can go back to being pissed at me for being negative. This is fucking Bizaro land!

Top 10 in the NFL in total offense and defense, Top 5 in the NFL in scoring offense and defense, and some believe our OC is an idiot and our QB should be benched!

[Michael K.]

Maybe the O Line wasn't so bad, particularly in Pass Pro?

Interestingly, some of the analytic numbers make it more challenging to assess blame besides just saying the Vikings overwhelmed the Seahawks’ line with all of their blitzes.

According to Pro Football Focus, Seahawks blockers were assessed as giving up eight pressures in 30 dropbacks.

That’s not much different from last week against Tennessee, when the Seahawks gave up 10 on 29.

Three starting O-line all had above-average pass blocking grades — left tackle Charles Cross (81.0), right guard Anthony Bradford (80.2), and center Olu Oluwatimi (76.6). Right tackle Abe Lucas had an average grade of 65.4. The only below average grade went to left guard Grey Zabel at 42.8.

The run-blocking grades were a bit different — Lucas led at 79.2. But he was the only starting lineman with even an average run blocking grade. The rest — Oluwatimi (55.4), Cross (50.6), Zabel (49.2) and Bradford (38.6).

PFF put much of its blame on Sam Darnold, who got his worst grade of the year at 37.9, below even the four-interception game two weeks ago against the Rams, which was 39.2.

PFF docked Darnold significantly for the two fumbles while stating that for the only the second time all season he did not record a “big time throw,” which PFF defines as executing a “high-difficulty, high-value pass.”

Darnold had a season-high four passes batted down at the line of scrimmage — he’d had only seven before Sunday. His overall passing grade of 37.4 was his lowest of the season.

Darnold had a bad day. Not the first time the Vikings and Flores devised a damn good scheme against one of their ex QBs. Did the same thing to Cousins last year. They are a good defense that is very well coached.

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