D-train wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 4:48 am
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 3:30 am
D-train wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 2:22 am
The Democrat message that they are too poor and dumb to even figure out how to get an ID and they have to be coddled and taken care of. And they even push legislation to confirm that great message. Talk about racist. The fact that it is passive aggressive and at the core of the Democratic Party's makes it far more insidious that your classic local yokel red neck racist up in the hills.
No... that's the Republican perception of the Dem message.
Dems acknowledge that:
1) Republicans actively work to make accessing voting harder for people because they know they stand a better chance with lower voter turn out.
How other than trying to require ID cards to prevent voter fraud???
2) There is a history of Conservatives taking measures uniquely meant to make it harder for minority voters to vote, knowing they usually align with Liberals.
What in the Jim Crow South 60-80 years ago?
3) A standard ID costs $58 on average. Not everyone has $58 to blow and voting is a universal right to citizens no matter your circumstance.
In WA it is $61 for 5 year or about a $1 a month. Everyone needs ID to function in society not just to vote. And why don't your pals in Olympia who completely control all branches of government just provide free ID to low income people??? 
It's you folks who then say, "what sort of loser can't afford $58!?" while you're sitting there in million dollar homes upset because someone once reported there was a litter box in a kid's bathroom.
1) Prove that voter fraud exists on any grand scale and I'll jump on the wagon with you. There's almost 0 evidence of any voter fraud occurring on any grand scale. Certainly not toward any party affiliation despite Republicans crying to anyone that will listen that it does.
2) "For decades, the Republican Party has supported election integrity initiatives—measures to reduce voter fraud (which is exceedingly rare in the United States[35][36]) but which critics have alleged are attempts at voter suppression.[37][38][39][40] As summarized by the Associated Press, "stronger voting regulations have long been a conservative goal, driven by old – and some say outdated – conventional wisdom that Republicans thrive in elections with lower turnout, and Democrats in ones with more voters. That has translated to GOP efforts to tighten voter identification laws and require more frequent voter roll purges. Both efforts tend to disproportionally exclude Black and Latino voters, groups that lean Democratic."[41]
3) There's a lot of barriers for getting a voter ID A) most people who have ID's drive cars... people who don't, tend to not see the need for one... e.g. minorities in inner cities who rely on buses, bikes, foot to travel B) lets say they are free, waits at the DMV and hours in certain areas are ridiculous... for someone with children, working multiple jobs, just trying to break even, the time necessary to get to the DMV and go through the process is a luxury. C) Documentation to prove their own identity and citizenship is often expensive difficult to obtain for certain groups. So even if voter ID was free, the documents needed to apply for a free voter ID are not.
What you view as easy answers, seem easy for someone who doesn't face obstacles to them.
