OT: NBA Returning to Seattle?

[auroraave]

Let's play a fun game of "hey, kids, play this forward to see what happens!"

Well, a 'team' we'll call them the Rusty Needles, decides the arena isn't 'up to standards', because we know goddam well that's what's next.
Hmmm, so the City will have to kick in money. It's not gonna be cheap, let's say $800 million (before the predictable cost overruns "no one saw coming" lol) But wait, let's back up a minute. The City is broke - the state is a mess, hence the new grift, er, 'income tax', which means your money will be going to fund a new arena or 'rebuild' of the current arena.

Instead of improvements to the City, your new tax money will be grifted away into a new arena! Remember - Steve Hanson was trying to build one privately - aka NOT at tax payer expense.

Here's a fun little history-slash-economic lesson for you! Remember covid? Remember the "Summer off Chazz"? Remember the CIty allowing rioting and destruction and murder? Well, that stupidity lead to a massive exodux of businesses - and all those jobs and taxes are GONE. They aren't getting replaced, which means - wait for it - ALL that tax revenue is GONE. Oh, wait, there's more!!! The lawsuits from all that chaos and destruction and death - all that money has to come from somewhere. Seattle lost all those lawsuits.

Now you get a state income tax to offset staggering ineptness and corruption and greed. What does all this mean? You'll get a new "gas tax" or some shit to pay for the new arena - because, you know, your taxes and gas prices aren't high enough - thanks to corruption, greed and ineptness. YAY!

The best part - all of the problems the City has, like homelessness, drugs, corporate exodus - STILL NOT RESOLVED!

But yeah, bring on that NBA!

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Donn Beach]

Climate Pledge Arena was 100% financed using private funds. OVG built it, but the majority ownership just changed hands, that's the One Roof, that just happened. It's the people that own the Kraken. Seems to be connected to the NBA expansion. In any event, complaints about the arena would need to be brought up with them.

Statement from the Kraken people

"We're committed to this community, and this parent brand brings together everything we've done, from a privately financed arena to the Seattle Kraken," Holloway said in a statement. "Increasing our ownership in Climate Pledge Arena allows us to consolidate operations and sets us up for future opportunities. OVG is an amazing partner, and I am pleased that they will continue to operate the facility for many years to come."

The transition of ownership of Climate Pledge Arena has been in the works for several months. The announcement also coincides with the upcoming NBA Board of Governors meeting in New York later this week

So on regards to the name

The Climate Pledge, which was founded by Amazon and Global Optimism in 2019, is a commitment from companies globally to be net zero carbon by 2040.

https://www.theclimatepledge.com/

[auroraave]

Oh, damn, thanks for posting this - I stand corrected!! However, I stand by my bitterness and outright dismissal towards the NBA in general

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I don't know what the deal is with the name, but its more than a name, it was a demonstration of a process. It was the world's first net-zero certified arena, operating on 100% renewable energy. They didn't just name it, they built it. I know how MAGAs hate renewable energy. Terms of fossil fuels, it's being reported Donald's Middle East war has damaged or destroyed 30-40 percent of the regions oil production capacity. Sounds like a plan to me

So it isn't hooked to the grid? Where is ths energy produced and how does it get there? Seems like BS to me.

[trharder]

I don't know what the deal is with the name, but its more than a name, it was a demonstration of a process. It was the world's first net-zero certified arena, operating on 100% renewable energy. They didn't just name it, they built it. I know how MAGAs hate renewable energy. Terms of fossil fuels, it's being reported Donald's Middle East war has damaged or destroyed 30-40 percent of the regions oil production capacity. Sounds like a plan to me

So, you don't know what the deal is and then explain to us what the deal is.
In general, I hate people who pull up AI to inject into a conversation, but I did it anyway - Grok

where does climate pledge arena get it's electicity?

Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle gets its electricity from 100% renewable sources, making it an all-electric venue with no fossil fuels used for daily operations.
On-site generation: The arena has more than 1,300 solar panels installed on the Alaska Airlines Atrium roof and the adjacent 1st Ave N. parking garage.
These panels generate about 440,000 kWh annually (roughly 1.2 MW total capacity across the related solar projects).
This covers only a small portion of the arena's needs (for context, it consumed around 27,000–34,000 MWh of electricity in its first year, with solar contributing a few hundred MWh). Off-site renewable energy. The majority of the power comes from off-site renewables, achieved through a combination of: Renewable Energy Certificates (RECs) that the arena (with support from Amazon) has purchased and retired. These include RECs from Puget Sound Energy’s Lower Snake River wind farm (and other sources). The RECs ensure the energy use is matched with renewable generation.
The arena is connected to the local utility grid served by Seattle City Light, which provides the physical electricity delivery. Seattle City Light's overall mix is already very low-carbon (mostly hydropower), but the arena goes further by using RECs and dedicated programs to make its consumption 100% renewable on a net basis.
Future plans (as of 2023–2025 updates)Starting in 2025, the arena planned to shift to a new exclusively renewable energy program from Seattle City Light, which would directly supply it with renewable power (positioning the arena as an early/anchor customer). This would reduce or replace reliance on separate REC purchases for ongoing operations.
Summary of the approach: All operations are electric (heating, Zambonis, dehumidification, etc.).
Net 100% renewable through on-site solar + off-site wind/solar via RECs or dedicated utility programs.
This helped the arena achieve Zero Carbon certification from the International Living Future Institute, one of the strictest standards requiring 100% of operational energy to be offset by new renewable sources.
In short, while the physical electrons come through Seattle City Light’s grid, the arena ensures they are fully matched with renewable generation (primarily solar on-site and wind/solar off-site) to maintain its zero-carbon claims. For the absolute latest details on the 2025+ utility program, checking the arena’s official sustainability page would be best, as plans can evolve.

[trharder]

I don't know what the deal is with the name, but its more than a name, it was a demonstration of a process. It was the world's first net-zero certified arena, operating on 100% renewable energy. They didn't just name it, they built it. I know how MAGAs hate renewable energy. Terms of fossil fuels, it's being reported Donald's Middle East war has damaged or destroyed 30-40 percent of the regions oil production capacity. Sounds like a plan to me

So it isn't hooked to the grid? Where is ths energy produced and how does it get there? Seems like BS to me.

It's 100% BS. They are hooked to the grid and pay carbon credits (Renewable Energy Certificates (RECs) to pretend
the electricity is all renewable. It's a Libtard lie that they agree upon to make themselves feel virtuous.

[Donn Beach]

Talk about getting wound up lol. OK, you know I'm a second generation building contractor and I always been fascinated with this kind of stuff, way back when I was a kid. Kinda of a survivalist mentality, remember Mother Jones, that kind of thing. Problem with me I'm such a poser, never really pursued it. That was an off grid mentality that was more motivated by being cheap and solitary than saving the planet. That was long before it became so politically charged

The Arena isn't off grid, nobody is claiming it is, I'm sorry if I mentioned it somewhere. I believe it incorporates a number of systems, it's not just power. There's water and sewage, heating and cooling systems, that are involved. There's more to it than slamming a building together and grabbing a certificate. I'm sure a lot of it is being incorporated into modern systems. I would be interested in seeing it if I was still living there.

How it's got so political is funny to me. Environmental protection use to be a republican talking point. The EPA was established by Richard Nixon. Republicans helped organize the first Earth Day.

Yeah, they use RECs, again, it's not about being off grid, it's about running on renuable energy resources. I don't know what the requirements of that are, hydro would seem renuable. I believe the arena involves other sources..

Here where it's hot as hell there's absolutely no consideration it seems for things like insulation, passive solar design, recycling water, or anything for that matter. Energy here is expensive as hell and systems are being strained, rolling brown outs. The people that are way ahead are the Chinese. They are the world leaders in solar. I see Musk just cut a deal for systems from them. They are reforesting the Gobi desert.

[DavidGee24]

I don't know what the deal is with the name, but its more than a name, it was a demonstration of a process. It was the world's first net-zero certified arena, operating on 100% renewable energy. They didn't just name it, they built it. I know how MAGAs hate renewable energy. Terms of fossil fuels, it's being reported Donald's Middle East war has damaged or destroyed 30-40 percent of the regions oil production capacity. Sounds like a plan to me

My wife and I went on a tour of the arena a couple summers ago, our own private tour. That arena is a freaking palace. I live near and attend games and shows at the Honda Centre in Anaheim and Climate Pledge makes that place look like a mausoleum. That said, the lady who took us through the arena wouldn't stop talking about renewable this, recycled that, and it took every ounce of my being to not ask her if they had recycled tampons in the Storm locker room.

[trharder]

Talk about getting wound up lol. OK, you know I'm a second generation building contractor and I always been fascinated with this kind of stuff, way back when I was a kid. Kinda of a survivalist mentality, remember Mother Jones, that kind of thing. Problem with me I'm such a poser, never really pursued it. That was an off grid mentality that was more motivated by being cheap and solitary than saving the planet. That was long before it became so politically charged

The Arena isn't off grid, nobody is claiming it is, I'm sorry if I mentioned it somewhere. I believe it incorporates a number of systems, it's not just power. There's water and sewage, heating and cooling systems, that are involved. There's more to it than slamming a building together and grabbing a certificate. I'm sure a lot of it is being incorporated into modern systems. I would be interested in seeing it if I was still living there.

How it's got so political is funny to me. Environmental protection use to be a republican talking point. The EPA was established by Richard Nixon. Republicans helped organize the first Earth Day.

Yeah, they use RECs, again, it's not about being off grid, it's about running on renuable energy resources. I don't know what the requirements of that are, hydro would seem renuable. I believe the arena involves other sources..

Here where it's hot as hell there's absolutely no consideration it seems for things like insulation, passive solar design, recycling water, or anything for that matter. Energy here is expensive as hell and systems are being strained, rolling brown outs. The people that are way ahead are the Chinese. They are the world leaders in solar. I see Musk just cut a deal for systems from them. They are reforesting the Gobi desert.

Good job making the "off grid" comment (not mine, although I joined in) the focus. The focus should be "renewable".
The Climate Pledge, which was founded by Amazon and Global Optimism in 2019, is a commitment from companies globally to be net zero carbon by 2040.
Naming an arena Climate Pledge is the epitome of virtue signaling.
I am a republican and am very much in favor of clean air and water. So are RFK jr and Elon, both of whom are now
hated by libtards.

[Donn Beach]

I don't know what the deal is with the name, but its more than a name, it was a demonstration of a process. It was the world's first net-zero certified arena, operating on 100% renewable energy. They didn't just name it, they built it. I know how MAGAs hate renewable energy. Terms of fossil fuels, it's being reported Donald's Middle East war has damaged or destroyed 30-40 percent of the regions oil production capacity. Sounds like a plan to me

My wife and I went on a tour of the arena a couple summers ago, our own private tour. That arena is a freaking palace. I live near and attend games and shows at the Honda Centre in Anaheim and Climate Pledge makes that place look like a mausoleum. That said, the lady who took us through the arena wouldn't stop talking about renewable this, recycled that, and it took every ounce of my being to not ask her if they had recycled tampons in the Storm locker room.

I'd been curious to seen it under construction, particularly with it involving aspects of the Key Arena. It would have been a fun job to work. I used to go in the kingdome construction site for the company I worked for then. Remember when the contractor quit in the middle of that, Hoffman? They got scared of the roof false work. That thing was so primitive, interesting how far things have come. Yeah, hearing about recycling the coffee cups