Mariners extend Colt Emerson

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:12 pm

Dipoto has been great at identifying and developing pitching. He has been mediocre at developing position talent and absolutely abysmal at trades and FA acquisitions
They have developed the best center fielder and best catcher in mlb haven't they?

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by GL_Storm » Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:14 pm

I'm a bit surprised by this. I like Emerson but I'm not sure signing him to this kind of deal before his first major league plate appearance makes sense. There's so much risk around both performance and injuries. What if it turns out he's a great major league hitter, but the kind of guy that gets injured all the time?

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Captain 97 » Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:16 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:12 pm
Dipoto has been great at identifying and developing pitching. He has been mediocre at developing position talent and absolutely abysmal at trades and FA acquisitions
They have developed the best center fielder and best catcher in mlb haven't they?
Do you think developing 2 legitimate players in 10 years is better than mediocre?

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:23 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:16 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:12 pm
Dipoto has been great at identifying and developing pitching. He has been mediocre at developing position talent and absolutely abysmal at trades and FA acquisitions
They have developed the best center fielder and best catcher in mlb haven't they?
Do you think developing 2 legitimate players in 10 years is better than mediocre?
Yeah, for me it's moving the needle. I'm looking at the roster and the farm and my confidence in their ability to develop talent has increased.

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by bpj » Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:49 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:23 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:16 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:12 pm


They have developed the best center fielder and best catcher in mlb haven't they?
Do you think developing 2 legitimate players in 10 years is better than mediocre?
Yeah, for me it's moving the needle. I'm looking at the roster and the farm and my confidence in their ability to develop talent has increased.
Moving the needle after 10 years?

Pretty low bar.

Giving an extension based on defense was exactly what was wrong with the Evan White deal.

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:01 pm

It's besides the point anyway. Their lack of success at developing talent has nothing to do with Emerson. He's the seventh rated prospect based on his own talent and how it's viewed around the league. That's the issue with extending him.

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Captain 97 » Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:06 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:23 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:16 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:12 pm


They have developed the best center fielder and best catcher in mlb haven't they?
Do you think developing 2 legitimate players in 10 years is better than mediocre?
Yeah, for me it's moving the needle. I'm looking at the roster and the farm and my confidence in their ability to develop talent has increased.
Here are the position players he's drafted in the first 3 rounds.

First Round Picks.
Kyle Lewis - Bust
Evan White - Bust
Harrry Ford - Traded for a mediocre reliever- Still in the Minors
Cole Young - Jury still out but so far he has a .634 OPS and is graded as one of the worst defensive second basemen in the League.
Colt Emerson - Still in Minors
Jonny Farmello - Still in Minors
Tai Peete - Traded - Still in the Minors
Luke Stevenson - Still in Minors

Second Round Picks
Joe Rizzo - Bust
Josh Stowers - Bust
Zach Deloach - Bust
Edwin Arroyo - Traded away - Still in Minors
Nick Becker - Still in Minors
Ben Williamson - Traded .611 OPS in MLB
Tyler Locklear - Traded .532 OPS in MLB

Third Round Picks
Bryson Brigman - Bust
Cal Raleigh - Elite MVP Candidate
Kaden Polcovich -Bust

That's not a lot to show for ten years. Seems pretty mediocre to me. Without Cal it would be a disaster. He didn't do jack in Anaheim either. The only player he drafted in his 4 seasons there that became an everyday player was David Fletcher who was well below average accumulating just 10.3 WAR in 7 seasons with an OPS of .681

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Optimistic M's Fan » Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:08 pm

Not that my opinion matters, but I find it pretty funny half the people on here completely shit all over Dipoto no matter what he does. Its like a Democrat saying Trump is the devil, or a Republican saying Obama ruined the country. There is good and bad on both sides. Same thing with Dipoto. Is he always right? no.... is he a complete fuck up ruining our team?? uhhhh hell no. Dipoto has a budget of under 200 mil to work with and yet we are a fairly consistent winner the last 5 years. We arent the Dodgers or the Yankees. But as Donn Beach said, we have 2 players who are the BEST at their position. We have a top 5 rotation. We have a top 5-10 bullpen. We have a top 10 farm system. We have a top 5-10 starting lineup. We have NO crippling contracts on our forecast as far as we can see. We have 30+ mil coming off our payroll this offseason freeing us up to afford to extend our core players. To completely shit all over what this team is accomplishing is ridiculous. 85% of fans in MLB would KILL to have their team in our position, yet half the people on this forum act like we are the fucking ROCKIES. Give credit where its due once in a while for fucks sakes. The sky isn't falling. We have a bright future. Griping that we locked our shortstop of the future up for likely 9 years and finding a reason to bitch about it is weird.
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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Michael K. » Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:09 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:01 pm
It's besides the point anyway. Their lack of success at developing talent has nothing to do with Emerson. He's the seventh rated prospect based on his own talent and how it's viewed around the league. That's the issue with extending him.
So, they have a lack of success at developing players, and that in your eyes means they should extend a guy before they have ever developed him?

Read Captain's list. Ick. Your blind faith in a guy that has given you zero reason to have any faith, let alone the blind kind? Is odd to me.

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Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Mar 31, 2026 6:10 pm

For me it's more of a nothing burger. It's a way mid tier teams are using to try and compete, Brewers and Braves have had success with it. But I don't think it's something the mariners should be pointing at like to excite fans. I don't see anything exciting about it. It's an actuarial table gamble. It's not like signing a FA. I don't see reason for celebrating

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