This post deserves its own thread, just indisputable

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Re: This post deserves its own thread, just indisputable

Post by bhofferb » Wed Jul 15, 2026 3:47 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2026 1:25 am
bhofferb wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2026 12:52 am
This is from a few years ago, but I doubt things have gotten better
2016:
Aoki $5.5M
Lind $8M
Miley $6M
Seth Smith $6.75M
Iannetta $4.25M
Cishek $4M
Benoit $8M
TOTAL: $42.5M
As % of Payroll: 29.86%
Total WAR: 3.0
$/WAR: $14.17M

2017:
Gallardo $9M
Smyly $6.85M
Cishek $6M
Valencia $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
Ruiz $4.5M
TOTAL: $37.35M
As % of Payroll: 24.2%
Total WAR: -0.3
$/WAR: error

2018:
Gordon $10.8M
Nicasio $7.75M
David Phelps $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
TOTAL: $29.6M
As % of Payroll: 18.75%
Total WAR: 0.5
$/WAR: $59.2M

2019:
Gordon $13.3M
Kikuchi $9.5M
TOTAL: $22.8M
As % of Payroll: 15.56%
Total WAR: 0.7
$/WAR: $32.57M

2020:
Kikuchi $16M
Gordon $13.74M
Mallex Smith $2.35M
TOTAL: $32M
Short season

2021:
Kikuchi $16.5M
Paxton $8.5M
Montero $2.25M
TOTAL: $27.25M
As % of Payroll: 37.12%
Total WAR: 1.4
$/WAR: $19.46M

2022:
Frazier $8M
Winker $6.75M
Giles $5.25M
Romo $2M
White $1.4M
TOTAL: $23.4M
As % of Payroll: 22.52%
Total WAR: 0.9
$/WAR: $26M

From this group of players, over 6 years (covid pass for 2020), these players accumulated 6.2 WAR for a cost of $182.9M, good for a $/WAR cost of $29.5M

In a market where they estimate one WAR is worth ~$8M on the free agent market, Dipoto paid $29.5M/WAR for these bums.

And got a promotion.
Isn't this a Bpj post???? You got multiple handles? lol
Had this saved but didn't remember where it came from. Only one of me, which is quite enough...

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Re: This post deserves its own thread, just indisputable

Post by bpj » Wed Jul 15, 2026 7:14 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2026 1:25 am
bhofferb wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2026 12:52 am
This is from a few years ago, but I doubt things have gotten better
2016:
Aoki $5.5M
Lind $8M
Miley $6M
Seth Smith $6.75M
Iannetta $4.25M
Cishek $4M
Benoit $8M
TOTAL: $42.5M
As % of Payroll: 29.86%
Total WAR: 3.0
$/WAR: $14.17M

2017:
Gallardo $9M
Smyly $6.85M
Cishek $6M
Valencia $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
Ruiz $4.5M
TOTAL: $37.35M
As % of Payroll: 24.2%
Total WAR: -0.3
$/WAR: error

2018:
Gordon $10.8M
Nicasio $7.75M
David Phelps $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
TOTAL: $29.6M
As % of Payroll: 18.75%
Total WAR: 0.5
$/WAR: $59.2M

2019:
Gordon $13.3M
Kikuchi $9.5M
TOTAL: $22.8M
As % of Payroll: 15.56%
Total WAR: 0.7
$/WAR: $32.57M

2020:
Kikuchi $16M
Gordon $13.74M
Mallex Smith $2.35M
TOTAL: $32M
Short season

2021:
Kikuchi $16.5M
Paxton $8.5M
Montero $2.25M
TOTAL: $27.25M
As % of Payroll: 37.12%
Total WAR: 1.4
$/WAR: $19.46M

2022:
Frazier $8M
Winker $6.75M
Giles $5.25M
Romo $2M
White $1.4M
TOTAL: $23.4M
As % of Payroll: 22.52%
Total WAR: 0.9
$/WAR: $26M

From this group of players, over 6 years (covid pass for 2020), these players accumulated 6.2 WAR for a cost of $182.9M, good for a $/WAR cost of $29.5M

In a market where they estimate one WAR is worth ~$8M on the free agent market, Dipoto paid $29.5M/WAR for these bums.

And got a promotion.
Isn't this a Bpj post???? You got multiple handles? lol
Whoever wrote it made a great point!

And 2023-2026 haven't gotten much better.

Dipoto has to go before this team will win imo. And big, dumb, dopeylipped Dave Cameron.

Cameron thought Nick Swisher was a $100M player after 2012. He signed for $56M (pretty sure the option didn't vest either).

Then the Mariners hired Cameron... and now we wonder, "How'd Naylor get 5 years and $90million?".......

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/what-is-nick-swisher-worth/
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Re: This post deserves its own thread, just indisputable

Post by bpj » Wed Jul 15, 2026 7:47 am

His offseason plan that year actually revolved around signing Nick Swisher. For $100M.
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