Your daily dose of DK

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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by D-train » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:12 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:37 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:48 pm
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:59 pm
DK would be a good jersey to buy.
Pro and I bought a Chinese version last July. 8-)
Those sizes could be messed up. Did you give it to the dog?
No I just cut off the bottom and wear it as a half shirt like the Boz at OU. :)
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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:08 am

Michael K. wrote:
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he fell but JS also traded up to get him, he can trade up as well as trading down
Seems like one year they traded back a few times and then traded up to get someone. But I don’t remember who it was.
traded up for Lockett


https://www.hogshaven.com/2016/1/22/108 ... kett-trade

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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:15 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:08 am
Michael K. wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:16 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:30 am
he fell but JS also traded up to get him, he can trade up as well as trading down
Seems like one year they traded back a few times and then traded up to get someone. But I don’t remember who it was.
traded up for Lockett


https://www.hogshaven.com/2016/1/22/108 ... kett-trade
This might be the year for the inaugural first round trade up.
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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17 pm

I doubt it, i think it be a function of diminishing returns. The cost of moving up in the first round would be too steep to justify the possible gain in talent at that level of the draft, that is figuring there is not that great a talent disparity at that level.

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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:54 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17 pm
I doubt it, i think it be a function of diminishing returns. The cost of moving up in the first round would be too steep to justify the possible gain in talent at that level of the draft, that is figuring there is not that great a talent disparity at that level.
Yep they are the first round geniuses and everyone else that trades up are idiots.
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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by ThePro » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:55 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17 pm
I doubt it, i think it be a function of diminishing returns. The cost of moving up in the first round would be too steep to justify the possible gain in talent at that level of the draft, that is figuring there is not that great a talent disparity at that level.
Depends if they botch signing Clowney. There has to be multiple contingency plans in place. One of them would be to trade up and land a pass rusher.

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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:48 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:54 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17 pm
I doubt it, i think it be a function of diminishing returns. The cost of moving up in the first round would be too steep to justify the possible gain in talent at that level of the draft, that is figuring there is not that great a talent disparity at that level.
Yep they are the first round geniuses and everyone else that trades up are idiots.
okay, show me the evidence of the geniuses trading up as opposed to trading down, you don't like their first round selections, ok but how is trading up the solution exactly? They give up three of their picks only to bomb on another first round selection..sounds like a plan. Far as I am concerned, their lack of success in the first round is all the more reason to trade out of the first round as opposed to throwing more value at it. If they are better at picking in the middle rounds then why not get even more middle round picks?

https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/23/181 ... -the-draft

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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:51 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:48 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:54 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17 pm
I doubt it, i think it be a function of diminishing returns. The cost of moving up in the first round would be too steep to justify the possible gain in talent at that level of the draft, that is figuring there is not that great a talent disparity at that level.
Yep they are the first round geniuses and everyone else that trades up are idiots.
okay, show me the evidence of the geniuses trading up as opposed to trading down, you don't like their first round selections, ok but how is trading up the solution exactly? They give up three of their picks only to bomb on another first round selection..sounds like a plan. Far as I am concerned, their lack of success in the first round is all the more reason to trade out of the first round as opposed to throwing more value at it. If they are better at picking in the middle rounds then why not get even more middle round picks?

https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/23/181 ... -the-draft
Thats one way to look at it. Another way is to consider that their lack of success is that they are always picking at spots 25-32 and moving up might solve the problem. Most try to switch things up to fix a lack of success.
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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:12 pm

If they had just kept their first pick at 21 they could have drafted free safety Darnell Savage instead of Blair. If they traded up to 17 they could have picked DT Dexter Lawrence. Or if they got crazy they could have moved to 16 and picked Brian Burns who had 2x the sacks as our 2019 sack leader.

Instead they traded down and picked a guy that looks like the worst 1st round pick of the PC JS era and that is saying something.
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Re: Your daily dose of DK

Post by ThePro » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:45 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:12 pm
If they had just kept their first pick at 21 they could have drafted free safety Darnell Savage instead of Blair. If they traded up to 17 they could have picked DT Dexter Lawrence. Or if they got crazy they could have moved to 16 and picked Brian Burns who had 2x the sacks as our 2019 sack leader.

Instead they traded down and picked a guy that looks like the worst 1st round pick of the PC JS era and that is saying something.
Could they have still landed DK if they traded up?. See I think Seahawks target a high risk player. And they figure no other team is going to touch this guy 1st round so they trade back unless there is someone that is high on their draft board. In 2018 Penny was high on their board so they took him. Last season they knew they could draft DK later so they traded down.

Too early to give up on Collier but I agree his rookie year was dogshit. He did get injured and missed most of camp though.

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