Good Collier video

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by D-train » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:24 pm

Logainismyhero wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 1:41 pm
I really didn't see anything in the videos that were overly impressive. I saw more bad than good. Hopefully the coaching staff can work on him.
Logain's one shining moment and he isn't even here to enjoy it! :lol:
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Re: Good Collier video

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:25 pm

what spring training games?...just going by what i read there, he seemed to have been used differently than he was in college

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by Michael K. » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:28 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:19 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:20 pm
interesting, that's the deal with the Senior Bowl huh, get them with pro coaches...
Interesting how a six weeks of Spring training games and workouts with pro coaches is completely meaningless but a couple practices and a game that can barely considered football given all the rules changes is the holy grail. lol
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(2) Running Backs, (1) Tight End, (2) Wide Receivers
(1) Running Back, (2) Tight Ends, (2) Wide Receivers
(1) Running Back, (1) Tight End, (3) Wide Receivers
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4-3 personnel
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OMG, why not just play seven on seven!?

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by Michael K. » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:30 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:25 pm
what spring training games?...just going by what i read there, he seemed to have been used differently than he was in college
Shit, his college production was herculian in comparison. Maybe they should have used him the way his college did! :lol:

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:33 pm

thankfully they didn't consider the Senior Bowl when they picked Brooks, that was based on college film

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by ThePro » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:48 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:33 pm
thankfully they didn't consider the Senior Bowl when they picked Brooks, that was based on college film
Brooks played in Senior Bowl.

https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1 ... 18789?s=19

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:55 pm

thought he missed it because of his shoulder
I wrote a profile for him and shipped it off to Field Level Media and Lindy's Pro Football magazine for publication, eager to see Brooks in person at the Senior Bowl and Combine to wrap up my evaluation of him.

Instead, Brooks missed his final game at Texas Tech due to a shoulder injury, which required surgery, forcing him out of the Senior Bowl and limiting him during the NFL Combine. I drop players on my board every year due to medical concerns and I did the same with Brooks.

As you can see in the profile below (published in December with size/speed estimations), however, I'm a big fan of his game. Also, I've reached out to scouts from other organizations and they were fans, as well, with one longtime talent evaluator responding to a tweet for reaction to the pick replying with "...Good player, better value than you think."
https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/gm-repo ... s-seahawks

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by Michael K. » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:32 pm

On the scale of bad, I would say reaching for a guy because of the Senior Bowl is a bigger sin than reaching for a guy based on his actual game tape. So, yeah, they reached for Brooks for a slightly less stupid reason than why they reached for LJ.

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Re: Good Collier video

Post by D-train » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:34 pm

ThePro wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:48 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:33 pm
thankfully they didn't consider the Senior Bowl when they picked Brooks, that was based on college film
Brooks played in Senior Bowl.

https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1 ... 18789?s=19
So he is a fun guy! Gotta love those intangibles.
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Re: Good Collier video

Post by D-train » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:35 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:55 pm
thought he missed it because of his shoulder
I wrote a profile for him and shipped it off to Field Level Media and Lindy's Pro Football magazine for publication, eager to see Brooks in person at the Senior Bowl and Combine to wrap up my evaluation of him.

Instead, Brooks missed his final game at Texas Tech due to a shoulder injury, which required surgery, forcing him out of the Senior Bowl and limiting him during the NFL Combine. I drop players on my board every year due to medical concerns and I did the same with Brooks.

As you can see in the profile below (published in December with size/speed estimations), however, I'm a big fan of his game. Also, I've reached out to scouts from other organizations and they were fans, as well, with one longtime talent evaluator responding to a tweet for reaction to the pick replying with "...Good player, better value than you think."
https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/gm-repo ... s-seahawks
I guess he was fun to watch while on the sidelines?
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