More on Clowney

[D-train]

Love dudes first name. The Ugo Darqeze competition would be tight for an all name team.

https://twitter.com/mattyfbrown/status/ ... 0240637954

[57reasons]

Brady Henderson story today saying Hawks' previous offer no longer on the table, that should he return here it would be at reduced price, if even offered. sounds plausible though Greg Bell was asked by Softy about it today and said he had no such information that he could confirm, and he actually believes Clowney will return here on a one-year deal.

[Donn Beach]

That interview seems to have generated another round of Clowney reporting, guess that was the intention, yeah Henderson saying its unlikely he returns to the Hawks, Bell saying he thinks he does, here is Clayton's piece

Henderson

On Jadeveon Clowney, my understanding is he would have to take significantly less money than what the Seahawks previously offered him in order for a reunion to happen. The team hasn't shut the door entirely on Clowney, but bringing him back isn't considered likely at this point.

Clayton

Finally, Jadeveon Clowney has spoken.

The only problem is that we didn’t learn much about what he is going to do this season. Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston sat down with Clowney this week and discussed why the NFL’s top remaining free agent hasn’t signed with a team.

Unfortunately, we still don’t know and it doesn’t sound as if he’s going to sign anywhere soon. Seahawks general manager John Schneider said he’s left the door open if Clowney wants to return, but the door may not be wide open.

The Seahawks added Benson Mayowa and Bruce Irvin as veteran pass-rushing options. They drafted Darrell Taylor and Alton Robinson as young options. What everyone has to understand is that the Seahawks have the ability to maintain their offer to Clowney, but his signing would now come with a price.

While the Seahawks have roughly around $17 million of cap room, if you count the top 51 salary cap numbers on the team, they have a little less than $8 million in the rookie pool and they – believe it or not – are at the stage that if they sign a pricey player they will have to let some players go.

This year is different. The 2020 salary cap came in a little lower than expected – $192.8 million instead of $200 million. The new collective bargaining agreement called for bigger base salaries and more regular-season expenses with an extra two players added to the 53-man roster coming from the practice squad.

The lowest base salary is $610,000. Last year, it was $495,000. That means teams have to count at least $1.22 million throughout the season. More money has to go into the 12-man practice squad.

Clowney, meanwhile, is coming back from core surgery. With his injury history, any team wanting to sign him would have to give him a physical, and that’s not happening because the team physicians aren’t allowed to give physicals during the pandemic. The Seahawks know him so they can bring him back with limited worry about getting the physical, though.

The good news for Seattle is Clowney loved being a Seahawk, as he said to FOX 26.

“I love Seattle,” Clowney said. “I love everybody on the coaching staff.”

After starting out offering Clowney in the $13 million a year to $15 million range, the Seahawks may have gone as high as $16 million to lure him back. Clowney has barely budged. He wanted more than $22 million at first. A couple weeks into free agency, he lowered the demand to $17 million to $18 million, but by that time, the virus eliminated his chances of getting a team physical.

He said he’s had a few offers. I’m sure the Miami Dolphins offered him early but it was probably in the $18 million range. The Cleveland Browns talked to him but you get the idea they aren’t going to pay him big now. They would have to cut Olivier Vernon if they did.

The Tennessee Titans are clearly interested but my guess is their offer might be as low as $10 million on a one-year deal, and that’s irrelevant for the moment because they can’t give Clowney a physical.

So for now the Seahawks will operate as if they are going to try to groom second-round pick Taylor as the starting defensive end. He will compete against the other three ‘Leo’ defensive ends. In the meantime, Clowney sits and waits.

[ThePro]

This shit is bizarre. So many different reports.

[57reasons]

Well, now Irvin's cap number is finally made public - 5.9M, or about $2M less than conjectured by most local media (most notably Clayton). Now seems highly unlikely we'll see both Clowney and KJ on the squad this season. Think I know Pro's answer, but curious what everyone else would choose, between:
A. KJ and Griffen or
B. Clowney, no KJ.

[Hanjag]

Well, now Irvin's cap number is finally made public - 5.9M, or about $2M less than conjectured by most local media (most notably Clayton). Now seems highly unlikely we'll see both Clowney and KJ on the squad this season. Think I know Pro's answer, but curious what everyone else would choose, between:
A. KJ and Griffen or
B. Clowney, no KJ.

Clowney

[ThePro]

Well, now Irvin's cap number is finally made public - 5.9M, or about $2M less than conjectured by most local media (most notably Clayton). Now seems highly unlikely we'll see both Clowney and KJ on the squad this season. Think I know Pro's answer, but curious what everyone else would choose, between:
A. KJ and Griffen or
B. Clowney, no KJ.

They can clear up more cash...

https://twitter.com/DavisHsuSeattle/sta ... 64128?s=19

[D-train]

Some might say that JS is just being a savvy negotiator and if Clowney finally signs at JSs price he will be. But is the couple mil in savings worth the risk when the alternative is going with a couple older guys that racked up some system sacks last season with other teams but had PFF ratings of 60 and 62, two rookies and a second year guy that literally did nothing a rookie.

[Donn Beach]

that is the thing, I don't think JS feels any particular pressure at this point to go off of his price. Today's Clowney click bait article, handicapping the four teams that are rumored to be interested in him

the Hawks

How good would Clowney be as a 4-3 edge rusher with Seattle if healthy? Having a full year in the Seahawks system would pay huge dividends as well, and it's certainly possible we'd see his sack numbers rise. Plus he would still get to play for a contender. It's a win-win for Seattle and Clowney.

Why they shouldn't sign Clowney: Seattle appears to have moved on from Clowney with their offseason moves, bringing back Bruce Irvin and signing Benson Mayowa in free agency while selecting Darrell Taylor in Round 2 and Alton Robinson in Round 5 of the draft. This comes one year after selecting L.J. Collier in the first round in 2019. Seattle has plenty of depth at defensive end, even if they could use Clowney as an established starter. It also doesn't help Everson Griffen is still on the market and comes at a cheaper price.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/to-s ... edy-teams/

[D-train]

2019 PFF ratings of our pass rushers (Clowney was at 87.3)

Taylor NA
Robinson NA
Irvin 62.9
Benson M. 60.1
Green 57.3
Collier 48.6

Second to last in the NFL in Sacks last season.

But sure, as they say in St. Lucia No pressure, no problem. Nothing to see here.