OT- Riots, who is responsible?

[Sexymarinersfan]

[Michael K.]

Not really, if he was not obeying traffic codes and was in a high-crime area. It always perplexes me when I hear these stories because do people really think that the cops are completely focused on determining the race of every driver out there rather than actually looking for violations of traffic codes and laws? It's silly.

Dude....I’m 47 years old. As a young man I sped, EVERYWHERE. I’ve probably been pulled over six or seven times!

So the cops have x-ray vision and can see your race through your car-seat from behind or at a distance or do they pull alongside you first to check and then decide whether to pull you over? It just doesn't seem all that plausible to me. Yes, many police forces have "targeted" areas with higher black populations and there were (and perhaps still are) cops that, when they can determine the race of the driver and have any reason to pull them over, are more likely to pull black drivers over. I think the numbers of those cops has decreased over the years to a level that is insignificant.

By the way, did Bumpus mention where he was driving, what type of vehicle he was driving, the total fines he had to pay, what the supposed offenses were? Did he dispute any of them. I wouldn't be surprised if he was exaggerating the number as well.

You cant tell who is driving another car when you are driving? How do you check out the hot chicks?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

This large-scale Stanford study concluded that black motorists were, on average, 20% more likely to get pulled over than their white counterparts from 2001 to 2017. Not insignificant but also not the disparity that the many anecdotes from black people would suggest.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/21/us/p ... index.html

[Donn Beach]

which you just pulled out of your ass...

but also not the disparity that the many anecdotes from black people would suggest

[bpj]

For anyone wondering why these organized riots happened:

[Sibelius Hindemith]

which you just pulled out of your ass...

but also not the disparity that the many anecdotes from black people would suggest

If Michael Bumpus was white, he only would have been pulled over 34 times!

[Donn Beach]

which you just pulled out of your ass...

but also not the disparity that the many anecdotes from black people would suggest

If Michael Bumpus was white, he only would have been pulled over 34 times!

no idea what you are talking about, but its what you are basing that claim on...okay

[Donn Beach]

We need to look at this via percentages, not absolute numbers. The black population in the U.S. is roughly 14%. Kinda like BA vs. OBP vs. OPS.

Population % is irrelevant. As a percentage of those involved in police encounters blacks are far higher than 14%, undoubtedly because they are far more likely to commit crimes than whites.

Someone earlier posted a statistic for the number of unarmed that were shot. I have no idea if the stats were accurate, or where they came from, but seems it was something like 19 white and 9 black. Those are numbers to start with. I understand what you are saying, but to try and say things like blacks and hispanics are more likely to be involved in gang activity or what ever just simply doesn't sit right. Someone would have to actually do a study, but we do know population percentages. I just googled and an article in 2016 says that blacks make up 12.7% of the population and whites 72.4%.

If you just use those numbers it doesn't make much sense to say it is equal. Kind of hard to look at the raw data and say that people are crazy to believe that racial profiling happens. If whites have six times the population, why only double the amount of unarmed shot by police? I don't know that those that believe there is no bias would like the answer to that. Understand this comes from someone that was raised in a family surrounded by law enforcement. My grandfather and both of his sons, hell, my Grandfather was the County Sheriff. They were great men...not all are.

One of the reasons I was so made at Michael Bennett and his BS is because it is a real issue. Bennett may have felt profiled, I have no idea why based on the evidence, but once the facts came out it looked bad. The same thing for that dumb ass actor who paid some people to beat him up so he could claim he was the victim of a hate crime. This shit REALLY happens, and when you do dumb stuff like they did it diminishes it.

I live in a smaller community, and while I knew there is issues with racism everywhere, I really didn't know how bad it could be until I became friends with a guy that is married to a black woman. It is really sad some of the stories I've been told. I used to hate to be told that "you just don't understand", but the truth is? I don't. I won't tell you I haven't had people not like me because I am white, because I have. But NOTHING compared to what she has gone through...and like I said, it is far worse elsewhere.

The riots make me sad, and they piss me off. For many reasons. One of those reasons is I truly felt that after this despicable human being in Minneapolis did what he did, I thought the nation was pretty well unified. That doesn't happen very much. But now? It doesn't matter how many peaceful protests happen, the conversation has gone from the terrible thing those police officers did, a topic almost all were unified on, to the looting and rioting. Something I don't agree with at all, but that issue divides us.

interesting, thanks Michael

[bhofferb]

Plenty of blame to go around but it looks like a lot of the looting is coming from nut job Antifa on one end of the spectrum and the bugaloo crowd on the other end. Despicable SOBs either way

[Bil522]

So here is the question that no one can answer well.....what is a "win" for the protesters?