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Redskins are changing their name

Post by D-train » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:30 pm

Not surprising
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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by ThePro » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:34 pm

I thought Snyder had a hissy fit and said theyre never changing their name? Looks like they are reviewing it... auroraave freakout in 3...2...1
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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by 57reasons » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:34 pm

not disappointed

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by D-train » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:44 pm

My high school changed its name from the Chiefs to the Mavericks. I thought that was silly.

Redskins is a bit over-the-top though.
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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by Michael K. » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:15 pm

The thing about these issues is as much as I think people are offended far too easy these days, it isn't my place to tell a Native American what they should be offended by. I mean, it is derogatory? Right?

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by D-train » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:23 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:15 pm
The thing about these issues is as much as I think people are offended far too easy these days, it isn't my place to tell a Native American what they should be offended by. I mean, it is derogatory? Right?
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... on-answer/
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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by DavidGee24 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:53 pm

The name "Redskins" has always sounded bad, but oddly there never has been any big outcry from Native American people other than a few small demonstrations. This has been put forth mainly by White Guilters. From what I understand there are even a few high schools on reservations whose mascot is the Redskins.

Look, this is what they should do and it's very simple: contact the leaders of every tribal nation and ask them what they and their tribal members think. If most of them are offended by the name, change it. If not, don't. The tribal leaders might answer differently than what the poll Michael posted shows, but nonetheless ask.

By the way, if they do change the name they should change it to "Bullets".

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by D-train » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:57 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:53 pm
The name "Redskins" has always sounded bad, but oddly there never has been any big outcry from Native American people other than a few small demonstrations. This has been put forth mainly by White Guilters. From what I understand there are even a few high schools on reservations whose mascot is the Redskins.

Look, this is what they should do and it's very simple: contact the leaders of every tribal nation and ask them what they and their tribal members think. If most of them are offended by the name, change it. If not, don't.

By the way, if they do change the name they should change it to "Bullets".
LOL Maybe the AK 47s and then the Wizards back to the Bullets.

Now that they announced that they are looking at it they have to change it. Even if they got signed affidavits from 100% of the Native Americans in this country that they were fine with it, they would still have to change it because of the group that you mentioned.
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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:43 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:15 pm
The thing about these issues is as much as I think people are offended far too easy these days, it isn't my place to tell a Native American what they should be offended by. I mean, it is derogatory? Right?
Wrong. Just another leftist lie.
But where did the word "redskin" come from? Many dictionaries and history books say the term came about in reference to the Beothuk tribe of what is now Newfoundland, Canada. The Beothuk were said to paint their bodies with red ochre, leading white settlers to refer to them as "red men."

According to Smithsonian historian Ives Goddard, early historical records indicate that "Redskin" was used as a self-identifier by Native Americans to differentiate between the two races. Goddard found that the first use of the word "redskin" came in 1769, in negotiations between the Piankashaws and Col. John Wilkins. Throughout the 1800s, the word was frequently used by Native Americans as they negotiated with the French and later the Americans. The phrase gained widespread usage among whites when James Fenimore Cooper used it in his 1823 novel The Pioneers. In the book, Cooper has a dying Indian character lament, "There will soon be no red-skin in the country."
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch ... of-redskin

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by ThePro » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:00 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:43 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:15 pm
The thing about these issues is as much as I think people are offended far too easy these days, it isn't my place to tell a Native American what they should be offended by. I mean, it is derogatory? Right?
Wrong. Just another leftist lie.
But where did the word "redskin" come from? Many dictionaries and history books say the term came about in reference to the Beothuk tribe of what is now Newfoundland, Canada. The Beothuk were said to paint their bodies with red ochre, leading white settlers to refer to them as "red men."

According to Smithsonian historian Ives Goddard, early historical records indicate that "Redskin" was used as a self-identifier by Native Americans to differentiate between the two races. Goddard found that the first use of the word "redskin" came in 1769, in negotiations between the Piankashaws and Col. John Wilkins. Throughout the 1800s, the word was frequently used by Native Americans as they negotiated with the French and later the Americans. The phrase gained widespread usage among whites when James Fenimore Cooper used it in his 1823 novel The Pioneers. In the book, Cooper has a dying Indian character lament, "There will soon be no red-skin in the country."
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch ... of-redskin
You call alot of people redskins?

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