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Pac 12 Preview

Post by D-train » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:07 pm

This guy correctly picked Cal would beat us last season. He knows what up.
By Jon Wilner
Bay Area News Group
Summer is unofficially underway after what was, officially, a catastrophic spring. For the moment, let’s dispense with the heavy stuff, assume there will be a season, and have some fun.

Recently, the renowned bookmaker William Hill released its odds on winning each Power Five conference.

The Pac-12 breakdown is as follows:

Oregon: 11/5

USC: 5/2

Washington: 7/2

Utah: 5/1

Arizona State: 10/1

Washington State: 15/1

UCLA: 18/1

California: 18/1

Arizona: 25/1

Stanford: 30/1

Oregon State: 75/1

Colorado: 150/1

Our reaction: The folks at William Hill apparently don’t place much emphasis on continuity — in particular, offensive continuity.

If they gave as much weight to the triad of returning quarterback-coordinator-head coach as we do, the Washington schools would have longer odds.

Best value I: California

The Bears have a new play-caller in Bill Musgrave, but they’re loaded with experience where it counts (quarterback, offensive line and defense) and were on track to contend last season until Chase Garbers was injured.

Also, they play Oregon, Washington and Stanford at home, providing a manageable path to the division.

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From there, it’s one game to the title. At 18/1, they’re a bargain.

Best value II: Arizona State

We wouldn’t think twice about a few bucks on the Sun Devils at 10-to-1. They’re one of three teams in the South with a returning quarterback and should be fairly stout on defense.

If USC stumbles, ASU is best positioned to snatch the division and play for the payday.

Worst value I: Washington State

Sure, 15/1 is a decent payout, but only if there’s reason to believe the Cougars, with a new coach, coordinator and quarterback — and with no spring practice — can win the North for the first time.

We’re skeptical of Oregon and Washington at their numbers (2-to-1 and 3.5-to-1, respectively), but the returning talent on defense provides both with a path to the championship.

We don’t see enough on either side of the ball to justify a dollar on the Cougars.

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Worst value II: Utah

The Utes were gutted on defense, have a new quarterback and, in our opinion, could experience a hangover from the 2019 collapse.

The likelihood of winning the division, much less the conference, is vastly more remote than 5-to-1 odds indicate.

That’s chucking good money after bad, even for fans with blind faith.

The Utes should be 10-to-1, at best.
No value: USC

The Trojans have 17 returning starters and perhaps the best quarterback in the conference (Kedon Slovis).

We project them as the solid but not overwhelming favorite in the South and would be tempted at 4-to-1, but not a dime less. Too many things can go wrong with the Good Ship Helton.
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Re: Pac 12 Preview

Post by KingCorran » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:59 pm

Stanford is interesting. Was 2019 an abberation or the new normal?

They could be supremely undervalued. Injuries rocked Shaw's world last year. Maybe they don't go back to their 10-win seasons in one swell foop, but I could see 8-9 without TOO much squinting, and 6-7 seems semi-automatic (intentional choice of anti-PC phrasing).

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Post by 57reasons » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:44 pm

As you say injuries were probably the biggest factor, but i'd suggest changing system/schemes no longer favor them the way they used to. Not too far back nearly every other team was trying to copy the Chip Kelly warp speed spread offense, requiring defenses to recruit and play smaller rangier types, leaving them ill-equipped to match the physicality of Stanford's power run game. That trend's slowing or reversal, combined with the increase in Pac12's ability to recruit/develop quality defensive tackles, has seriously downgraded their previous advantage.

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