Is it too early to get excited about our future outfield???

[D-train]

It was too early to sign a pitcher to a big contract that had zero big league experience. Hopefully it wasn't too early to sign a 1B who had never played about AA to a long term contract.

But there is no downside to being excited early.

downside?.. Its been a generation since they have delivered on one of their promises, you said you don't expect them to be competitive until 2022. I am all for a rebuild, but i think i will wait awhile before getting really excited about it. Honestly, we have two more seasons to endure before we really can expect something tangible, i think its too early to get excited

People can have all the excitement they want. That is what makes cheering for a team fun. There is reason for hope that hasn't been here in nearly a decade. Now expectations, that's something we have to temper for a few years. I have a ton of excitement, but I have very little as far as expectations until 2022.

Exactly. Not likely we are taking out second mortgages on our homes to put $100k on them winning the 2021 or 2022 WS.

[Donn Beach]

It was too early to sign a pitcher to a big contract that had zero big league experience. Hopefully it wasn't too early to sign a 1B who had never played about AA to a long term contract.

But there is no downside to being excited early.

downside?.. Its been a generation since they have delivered on one of their promises, you said you don't expect them to be competitive until 2022. I am all for a rebuild, but i think i will wait awhile before getting really excited about it. Honestly, we have two more seasons to endure before we really can expect something tangible, i think its too early to get excited

So if you decided to get excited now and the rebuild is a flop would you need to get therapy or go on antidepressants or what? I still don't see how not being excited now benefits you in the slightest.

I am just speaking for myself, if you want to be excited go for it, I don't feel the need, when they get where they seem to be ready to field a great ML outfield then i can see about getting excited about it. You are the one taking shots at the White Sox and Padres attempts at a rebuild, why should i be anymore excited about this one than theirs? There are any number of teams out there selling the future, ok,

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Aren't you the one who chastises people for not being sufficiently excited about the Seahawks every off-season for the past several years? Let's just agree that how excited we get is not within our control, but rather a function of our confidence in how the teams are run. And lately, I haven't been impressed with how the Seahawks have been run.

[D-train]

downside?.. Its been a generation since they have delivered on one of their promises, you said you don't expect them to be competitive until 2022. I am all for a rebuild, but i think i will wait awhile before getting really excited about it. Honestly, we have two more seasons to endure before we really can expect something tangible, i think its too early to get excited

So if you decided to get excited now and the rebuild is a flop would you need to get therapy or go on antidepressants or what? I still don't see how not being excited now benefits you in the slightest.

I am just speaking for myself, if you want to be excited go for it, I don't feel the need, when they get where they seem to be ready to field a great ML outfield then i can see about getting excited about it. You are the one taking shots at the White Sox and Padres attempts at a rebuild, why should i be anymore excited about this one than theirs? There are any number of teams out there selling the future, ok,

Padres haven't have a winning record since 2010 and they won 2 more games than we did last season. White Sox haven't have a winning record since 2012 and won 4 more games than we did last season. I not a Padre or White Sox fan. Why would I get excited about them. Even if I was a fan I would have a tough time getting excited in year 10 and 8 of the rebuild.

[DavidGee24]

Being excited is a good thing, it means you're happy. The nice thing about baseball is that you can get excited about any game on any given day.

Look, we've all been baseball fans for a long time, Mariner fans since Day One, and we know all too well how this goes. We just went through the Hultzen/Walker/Paxton/Pineda and Montero/Ackley/Smoak/Franklin youth movement and it was a complete disaster.

In the 70s the franchise did the opposite of what the Blue Jays did and tried to win with washed-up veterans. In the 80s the first youth movement resulted in a few pretty good players but still ended up a total flop. In the 90s we developed Griffey/Tino and Edgar Martinez/Buhner/A-Rod/Johnson, made the playoffs four times and almost hit the jackpot...and that's the only success the organization has had.

These youngsters look good but it's going to be a few years before we know what we have, and even if half of them end up being good players that's only a small part of the roster. As an example the 90s Mariner teams were loaded with star players but their secondary players (and pitchers in particular) held them back.

They've got to strike gold with the youth movement AND they have to get the big free agents, just like the Astros did and just like Pat Gillick did back in the day. That's really difficult to do.

But even with those sobering thoughts it's good to be excited because you just never know. In 2011 we had little to no idea of what was coming with the Seahawks.

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

My concern is whether we have the right manager in place. SS would be a great neighbor but I think he would better serve as a bench coach who puts the blood back in. When I see the mental mistakes we tend to make in his tenure I'm pretty sure a lot of that is due to poor discipline and discipline starts at the top. I don't know who the right guy is but my gut tells me it's not SS.

Totally agree.... he's a yes man for JD, no alpha male, no leader... for example.... let's see today's lineup... seems to me Crawford, White, Seager, and Lewis should be at the top.... they are swinging the best right now... I might be tempted to go Crawford, Lewis, Seager, then White ...

[topcrickets]

A little early

[Petert]

It’s too early to be excited. It’s not too early to have hope.

[Juliooooo]

It’s too early to be excited. It’s not too early to have hope.

Im excited because there is a reason to have hope.

[Donn Beach]

I can't remember ever telling anybody to be excited about the Hawks off season, but that is different. We are not talking about the Mariners off season, we are talking about the minor leagues. Hey, you can be excited about some kid in the minors, I don't follow the minors that closely. The question was, is it too early to be excited about a future ML outfield. For me yeah, I will wait until it actually happens. You can tell me its going to be this guy or that guy and how great he is going to be, okay. For me there is a world of difference between a minor league player and a ML one. I will wait until they have made that leap, transformed from a great minor leaguer to a great MLer, and for an entire outfield.

Its probably the timeline that tempers my enthusiasm. There is no doubt the Mariners have some nice talent in the minors. And no doubt some of them will be great MLers. But having it all happen simultaneously and quickly, that is something I will wait to see. That is why I brought up The W Sox and the Padres. They have been developing great prospects for awhile now, but actually putting it all together into a ML team has taken them time. I think it could be awhile before the Mariners actually get all the pieces functioning together in a winning ML team, be great if it happens.

It's supposed to be the White Sox season this year i guess, grab Chicago from the Cubs. For me, that sort of stuff is what gives me hope for the Mariners, actually seeing it happen, a young team come together and win.