Who will win the presidential election

[D-train]

I am not wondering about it as much as pointing this deal with the vote being tampered with in Wisconsin, is the press picking that up?

No. LOL. Have you noticed that the press is in the bag for Biden?

you mean like how Fox called Arizona for Biden and pissing off Trump, interesting Biden controlling Fox these days, glad someone is control of things, beats chaos

Fox called AZ before OH when Trump had a 8 point lead with 6% left to count in OH.

[HawkBowler 2.0]

you mean like how Fox called Arizona for Biden and pissing off Trump, interesting Biden controlling Fox these days, glad someone is control of things, beats chaos

Fox is and always has been a member of the MSM. You're right to bring up AZ. That's when the evening turned. Trump was cruising toward victory. Even now, in fact, Trump still has a shot at winning ALL of the electoral votes he won in 2016.

When Fox called AZ, a surprise and the first of the networks to do so, the voting counts in MI, WI, PA, GA and NC all stopped. Was this Fox signalling to those states to stop counting?

There was an effort made by all the networks to slow walk Trump's results so that Biden didn't appear to be losing throughout the night.

[Donn Beach]

that has to be it...Fox swung the election to Biden...whatever it takes i guess

[DavidGee24]

And again, I have flat out lost faith in everyone...I don't give a shit which party. I am sick to death of Democrats, but that is because I live in Eastern WA and am completely controlled by them. The bottom line is both parties are crooked as shit and it doesn't matter.

Like I said, at least now all is right with the world. Racial tensions will clear up (for about three or so years), there will never be any more protests or riots, and COVID will be cleaned up because we all know that the Dems are all about science and they will now stab us with some shit and we will all be fixed.

Whether it's by hook or by crook, if Trump loses it's in large part his own fault. He has a way of turning people off that detracts from the good things he does and that causes the more stupid voters to be ripe for the pickings by the Democrats. Even if he acted like, say, George W. Bush, his personality wouldn't have cost him the votes it has.

That plus Covid, Covid was a no-win for Trump. if Covid doesn't happen Trump slaughters whoever runs against him. Unfortunately, no matter what the death figure would have been, the Dems were going to use that figure against Trump as a foolproof measure guaranteed to win votes. If it was 200,000 dead, that's too much. If it was 20,000 dead...that's basically the same figure where the Dems' narrative is concerned.

If indeed Biden wins, the Dems are going to wildly celebrate a narrow victory by a career politician over a non-politician with possible cheating by the Democrat party. Morons. At least Trump beat their beloved Hillary.

If anything good is going to come out of this, Biden will probably be a boring president that will be remembered the way Millard Fillmore is, and maybe we could use a few years of boredom in this country.

On the other hand, we have to hope that the Islamic terrorists don't get emboldened with Trump out of the way, or that Biden doesn't croak and stick us with Harris running things.

[HawkBowler 2.0]

What reason do the Democrats have for delaying the vote? None if they were confident that they already had the votes to win. By delaying several days, they now have the opportunity to go out and collect ballots from their constituents.

They don't have the votes. Again, Trump was cruising before AZ was called. This one is still in play. Trump campaign thinks they will win by 40,000... we should know today for both AZ and NV. If Trump wins those two states it will put a lot of pressure on the other hold out states to either call the race or cough up the votes. Trump has a 700,000 vote lead in PA with a million to be counted. Why isn't that state already called for Trump?

[Donn Beach]

the states don't call the races

[HawkBowler 2.0]

If indeed Biden wins, the Dems are going to wildly celebrate a narrow victory by a career politician over a non-politician with possible cheating by the Democrat party. Morons. At least Trump beat their beloved Hillary.

True, they're also going to have a candidate who is most likely under FBI investigation. How do they investigate Hunter for wire fraud and laundering without also investigating "the big guy" that makes Biden Inc go?

There's no reason to give up yet. One thing for certain at this point is that the election didn't go the way the Dems planned. They're in crisis mode now trying to figure out how to pull the votes together to run the shoot. More pressure is on Biden. Trump has 268 at this point if PA, GA and NC hold as expected.

[HawkBowler 2.0]

the states don't call the races

No but they report the votes. Why aren't they reporting?

[Michael K.]

the states don't call the races

No but they report the votes. Why aren't they reporting?

They where. The problem is when they counted. Some of these dumb asses have been sitting on mail in votes for weeks, didn't count them, and then just decided "hey, let's count them all tonight!" Genius. Like I said, fraud or not, the stupidity of humanity scares me. It wasn't that they weren't reported, at least how I understood it, it is that they hadn't counted them yet. You can't report what you didn't count yet.

Also, like I said, the extremely low turnout in Eastern Washington has me pissed off. I am now reading all kinds of BS on Social Media about how the West Side controls all. Well, they do, nothing changes, but if you don't go out and vote? Then STFU. It isn't an electoral college....the popular vote wins. Yet we have people on the East Side that do nothing but bitch, but then can't be bothered to vote!?

My hope is that the numbers I have seen reported were earlier yesterday, and maybe they haven't counted them all. But I saw something like 20% turnout in Douglass and Chelan Counties. That is fucking pathetic.

[Michael K.]

the states don't call the races

No but they report the votes. Why aren't they reporting?

They where. The problem is when they counted. Some of these dumb asses have been sitting on mail in votes for weeks, didn't count them, and then just decided "hey, let's count them all tonight!" Genius. Like I said, fraud or not, the stupidity of humanity scares me. It wasn't that they weren't reported, at least how I understood it, it is that they hadn't counted them yet. You can't report what you didn't count yet. Waiting is why we have controversy. Just count the damn things, and then as soon as the polls close, include those numbers in with the ones you count that day. Then you won't have any question. Now it looks like ballots were either created or found late. Ridiculous. But, what isn't when you are discussing politics.

Also, like I said, the extremely low turnout in Eastern Washington has me pissed off. I am now reading all kinds of BS on Social Media about how the West Side controls all. Well, they do, nothing changes, but if you don't go out and vote? Then STFU. It isn't an electoral college....the popular vote wins. Yet we have people on the East Side that do nothing but bitch, but then can't be bothered to vote!?

My hope is that the numbers I have seen reported were earlier yesterday, and maybe they haven't counted them all. But I saw something like 20% turnout in Douglass and Chelan Counties. That is fucking pathetic.