Who will win the presidential election

Who will win

Trump
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65%
Biden
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35%
There will be a tie and they will be co-president
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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by gil » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:15 pm

The one LIE that really gets me is that "China pays for the tariffs we impose." No.

Tariffs are collected from the importer, not from the country of origin. That means, most likely, that tariffs imposed by the U.S. are ultimately paid by the American consumer in the form of higher prices.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:21 pm

gil wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:15 pm
The one LIE that really gets me is that "China pays for the tariffs we impose." No.

Tariffs are collected from the importer, not from the country of origin. That means, most likely, that tariffs imposed by the U.S. are ultimately paid by the American consumer in the form of higher prices.
Because the Chinese communist government subsidizes those products in an attempt to gain an unfair advantage

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by bpj » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:31 pm

As expected, gil had no Trump lies.

No idea what the windmill thing is, but seems less than relevant.

For the show me the evidence crowd, they have hundreds of affidavits with actual witnesses like this lady behind them.

Your liberal worlds are about to get turned (back) upside down.

https://youtu.be/psGpIuNh_dU

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by number11 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:46 pm

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:13 pm
Before you go This is what I think of President Donald J Trump
I love the guy


If I could give Donald Trump a message I would say, please Mr. President, keep the faith. You have been nothing short of spectacular over the last four years. Your limiting of regulatory overreach so that Americans of all stripes could pursue success and happiness unfettered by government was genius. The result was an economy on fire and record unemployment. Your track record of filling courts with originalist jurists has created a bulwark against the red tide of liberalism. Your willingness to step away from organizations and policies that have been followed for decades to America’s detriment took extraordinary courage.

But you’ve been much more than your policies. You’ve been… us. You’ve been a leader for Americans who felt like America was being erased right in front of their eyes. Surprisingly to many, you have been a champion of small businesses, the font from which the American dream and prosperity flows. You have been a champion for life and have helped others around the world embrace peace. And perhaps most of all, you have given half the country the courage to openly express their patriotism again.

The thing that is most extraordinary about you is the fact that you have done all of this and so much more while enduring unprecedented attacks from before you were even elected. From the prior administration’s attempts to smother your presidency in the crib to the swamp dwellers’ attempts to undermine your policies to the media’s relentless vituperative attacks, you have never wavered; you stood your ground.






You are a combination of the best of the two greatest leaders of the 20th century: Ronald Reagan and Winston Churchill. Reagan, like you, had a vision of America’s greatness and a recognition of how American freedoms have created more prosperity than any nation in human history, all while helping protect and promote freedom around the world. You share that vision of American greatness and you articulate it every time you speak, inspiring tens of millions of Americans along the way. Winston Churchill spent years in the wilderness being vilified for his stances against communism and fascism despite the clear danger posed by both. The favorite disparagement of him was “War monger”. For you the label is “racist” despite decades of demonstrating anything but and policies while in office that have been focused on the black community such as sentencing reform, unprecedented support for HBCUs and bringing about an historically low black unemployment rate.

The thing the three of you share is a willingness to endure the slings and arrows of your opponents because you know what you’re doing is right. Mr. President your willingness to go out every day and engage with the media, “experts” and Democrats who disparage you relentlessly has inspired millions of Americans to stand up and finally declare that the media / academia / Democrat industrial complex is wrong and that America is not the evil empire they suggest it is. America is not racist. America is not sexist. America is not hateful, homophobic or Islamophobic. Capitalism is not slavery and freedom come from God not government.

For the first time in 30 years conservatives feel like they have a champion who recognizes that the gift our Founding Fathers left us is indeed the goose that has lain the golden eggs both for the United States and the world. America is not perfect, but she improves decade after decade after decade, something that cannot be said of most civilizations or nations.

Americans who value our freedoms, particularly those enshrined in the 1st and 2nd Amendments, find it challenging to stand and protect them when the “elites” and the media constantly tell us our words make us racists or our “clinging to our god and guns” makes us not fit for respect. This is particularly true when those we elected to backstop our efforts falter. But you don’t falter. In Donald Trump we found a rock amidst the PC storm that has been battering America for years.

And that is why we chose you. To be our champion. To have our backs. To fight our fight with us as we unabashedly stand for America and her ideals. To remind Americans and the world that the United States, while imperfect, is the greatest nation on earth, where anyone of any race, religion or color – and importantly – economic background, can succeed spectacularly and in the process potentially bring the same to friends, family and community.

While it is you who has borne the primary burden for the last four years, we have been called racists, fascists and worse for supporting you. It is a price that I and tens of millions of Americans willingly pay because we know it’s not true and we know you’ve got our backs. Now, when it seems like the entire swamp has risen beyond its edge in an attempt to drown you and destroy America as we know it, we want you to know we have yours. We will not allow the Democrats and their media water carriers to succeed as they attempt to steal this election by hook, crook, or code. We will not allow them to harness the power of the dead to steal this election. We will not let them use the fear mongering they promoted about Covid as an avenue for overwhelming the electoral process and committing fraud. We will not let the media and big tech shell game take our eyes off the fact that you played by the rules, but they cheated. No sir, this will not stand.

I’m not sure how Democrats believe that 70 million Americans who would have crawled over glass to vote for you believe that they were outvoted by a guy who could not fill a parking lot on his best day. The media & Democrats borrow from Chico Marx to ask: “Who are you going to trust, us or your lying eyes?” We see their fraud staring us in the face, from dead voters to phantom ballots to computer “glitches”. The level of fraud would be embarrassing in a banana republic, never mind here in America.

All of this to say, Sir, please do not give up. You have done too much for America. You have fought too hard for the American people. You have weathered too much for our values to give up now. We have your back. We see the finish line. You may have been knocked back by this assault on our Republic, but we are with you. You were our vanguard for four years, preparing us for this moment in time and we will not abandon you just as you did not abandon us. We are at a precipice of history, and if we allow the left to steal this election it is not only your presidency that will have been extinguished, but it will be freedom and liberty and the American Constitution. It will be the American torch that has led the world for so long. If we allow this fraud to succeed, there may no way back…

One more time Mr. President we ask you to stand with us in this dark hour. The winds will no doubt be against us, the tide will be against us, but at the end of the day, together we will prevail and history will one day record the eight years of the Trump presidency as among the greatest in American history. Ronald Reagan would no doubt be proud of the company
So, that is beautiful, eloquent, and heartfelt. Really nice letter, thank you for sharing this. While I don't agree with most of the policies touted, this helps me understand the Trump supporter better. I think Americans need to really work on understanding one another right now.

But your reasons for why you believe it has to be a fraudulent election don't stick. Biden doesn't have followers who would crawl through glass to vote for him. But he doesn't need to. For all the Trump lovers who feel as you do, there are 6 million more that feel the opposite, that he is the worst president in the history of the country. They have all of your passion, but in the opposite direction. They didn't vote for Biden, they voted against Trump. Democrats did not cheat. America voted, and we have the results. Please accept them, stop clinging to this fallacy of a fraudulent election, and let's start healing.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by bpj » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:55 pm

Nice to see another lib with the inside facts, but I think I'll let the process play out given which side says its over that lied nonstop about Trump for 5 years, or Trump who has done exactly what he said he would, fought against the never ending lies and has now caught them cheating in the election.

None of us have all of the facts, we just choose to believe different people, so let's let the process play out. You people are trying to close the case before court even gets in session and it's not going to happen.

In the end you'll be watching President Trump for another 4 years while crying into your bag of cheetos wondering how you missed everything that was right in front of your face, yet you chose not to see it.

The difference is we watch your news with the filter of our sides input. You libs rarely see our info so the big picture never makes sense to you.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by number11 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:04 am

bpj wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:55 pm
Nice to see another lib with the inside facts, but I think I'll let the process play out given which side says its over that lied nonstop about Trump for 5 years, or Trump who has done exactly what he said he would, fought against the never ending lies and has now caught them cheating in the election.

None of us have all of the facts, we just choose to believe different people, so let's let the process play out. You people are trying to close the case before court even gets in session and it's not going to happen.

In the end you'll be watching President Trump for another 4 years while crying into your bag of cheetos wondering how you missed everything that was right in front of your face, yet you chose not to see it.

The difference is we watch your news with the filter of our sides input. You libs rarely see our info so the big picture never makes sense to you.
Yes, we all watch the news under our own filters. Yes, we all choose to believe different people. Yes, we all have our own preconceptions. That doesn't mean you're 100% correct & the libtards are brainwashed. To me, it looks like the process has already played out. I can understand for Trump supporters, they don't believe it yet. I wonder at what point they will?

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by bpj » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:06 am

Only after the cases are closed after all appeals. In other words, not when the fake media that has lied to hurt Trump for 5 years, are the ones making the call based on nothing.

I'm much more confident about being right given what I did and didn't believe over the last 5 years while you dopes walked around talking about Russia like your masters in your tv box.

Very soon one of our sides is going to be proven right and the other side will be proven criminal fraudsters.

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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:25 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xytmv6W ... e=emb_logo

What I like about this interview is it shows #1 that even the great Rush Limbaugh can get frustrated not knowing what the Hell is going on.
Two...that Judges do NOT appreciate when their court cases are deliberated in the public square before they've had a chance to absorb the facts and evidence of a case.
Team Trump is playing this right. Trump is not coming out with any outlandish statements these last two weeks. Low key. Can't be used against him in a court of law.
This is what I like about Trump also...he doesn't just rush into war. He has every right and probable cause to arrest these crooks and fill us in later, BUT, he is trying it through the courts first. Proving his measure.
If it turns out, and I fear this, that SCOTUS is compromised, well then let loose the dogs of Hell!
There will never be another fair election if not exposed and never a better moment to drain that deep shit cesspool.
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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by bpj » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:29 am

Interesting take on the consequences of Biden accepting the presidential transition aid, a hidden poison pill:
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Re: Who will win the presidential election

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:38 am

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