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Isn't being a POS what dt meant about the dude sucking as a person for 20 years?Hasslecracked wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:08 pmNeither guy would be dumb enough to openly criticise or mock players to the public. Even when Earl Thomas flipped Pete off, I never heard Pete say one bad word about him in a public sitting. Mather is just a piece of shit that talked too muchD-train wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:04 pmI'm not doing anything other than giving you my thoughts on why he was fired. I agree with your last sentence.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:47 pm
You're putting the team's performance the past 20 years on Mather? How long has he been team president? And even if he was terrible in every position he has held with the organization that doesn't make it acceptable to impute the worst possible motives to everything he said in a private zoom session. I have no problem with him losing his job, but the media has made things considerably worse for the Mariners with their biased and in somescases dishonest reporting.
If John Schneider or PC would have given an identical speech they would have easily survived imo. It probably would have been laughed of as goofy humor.
Yeah no shit.Hasslecracked wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:08 pmNeither guy would be dumb enough to openly criticise or mock players to the public. Even when Earl Thomas flipped Pete off, I never heard Pete say one bad word about him in a public sitting. Mather is just a piece of shit that talked too muchD-train wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:04 pmI'm not doing anything other than giving you my thoughts on why he was fired. I agree with your last sentence.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:47 pm
You're putting the team's performance the past 20 years on Mather? How long has he been team president? And even if he was terrible in every position he has held with the organization that doesn't make it acceptable to impute the worst possible motives to everything he said in a private zoom session. I have no problem with him losing his job, but the media has made things considerably worse for the Mariners with their biased and in somescases dishonest reporting.
If John Schneider or PC would have given an identical speech they would have easily survived imo. It probably would have been laughed of as goofy humor.
I thought he was talking abiut the baseball team.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:10 pmIsn't being a POS what dt meant about the dude sucking as a person for 20 years?Hasslecracked wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:08 pmNeither guy would be dumb enough to openly criticise or mock players to the public. Even when Earl Thomas flipped Pete off, I never heard Pete say one bad word about him in a public sitting. Mather is just a piece of shit that talked too muchD-train wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:04 pm
I'm not doing anything other than giving you my thoughts on why he was fired. I agree with your last sentence.
If John Schneider or PC would have given an identical speech they would have easily survived imo. It probably would have been laughed of as goofy humor.
I see what you mean, I didn't think of it like that but makes sense also. Either way, Mather has said enough stupid things unnecessarily that he's gone and deserved it given his resume of gaffes.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:16 pmI thought he was talking abiut the baseball team.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:10 pmIsn't being a POS what dt meant about the dude sucking as a person for 20 years?Hasslecracked wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:08 pm
Neither guy would be dumb enough to openly criticise or mock players to the public. Even when Earl Thomas flipped Pete off, I never heard Pete say one bad word about him in a public sitting. Mather is just a piece of shit that talked too much
Be surprised no more............bpj wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:36 pmI see what you mean, I didn't think of it like that but makes sense also. Either way, Mather has said enough stupid things unnecessarily that he's gone and deserved it given his resume of gaffes.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:16 pmI thought he was talking abiut the baseball team.
I joke about the problem being systemic because we need new owners, but I am surprised the cancel culture stopped at Mather when what he said clearly reflects the stance they've taken.
To let free agents fall to them that will then come hat in hand for a deal
https://www.lookoutlanding.com/2021/2/2 ... vue-rotaryIf the Mariners are truly committed to doing better, a platitude that John Stanton leans on in times of crisis, he needs to find some of the self-awareness that so often eluded his former subordinate. Doing better means cleaning house and finally putting actions to words. John Stanton must sell the team to someone that actually cares about the Seattle Mariners in ways other than profit, revenue, and fostering an environment of hatred.
Not at all. There's just some things you don't say in public. Its one thing if you and I are talking like this over beers or on a forum. Completely different for the President to be airing it out on a LIVE ZOOM call.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:11 pmBut if you believe that Mather acts and acted alone and now he is gone then problem solved. I think it naïve to think that Mather was on an island talking to himself all the time. The company culture has allowed him to exist as a leader for almost a decade.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:15 amI'm not gonna keep going over over the specifics video. Watch it for yourself and make your own judgement call. No matter how you slice it this is a bad day for the organization, whether you want to believe it or not. Its not how you perceive it, its how others do.
Really?? Awesome. Then I'll bump that number up to 86.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:50 pmThey are playing 162 games. I will have another $100 wins contest which I will post in a month.Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:06 amI hope they do. I got them pegged for 82 wins in a 154 game format.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 amHard to use covid as an excuse for a wasted year, while expecting Kelenic to make the jump out of spring training in the same breath.
I think the real difference is that you guys don't see a playoff team if they made sure the leaks were filled, and I see them fighting for it down two games in September.