Sunday Game thread

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by bpj » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:02 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:55 am
Juliooooo wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:51 am
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Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:38 am


Exactly.

So other teams would have just filled their holes for a year with FA's that were plentiful instead of sitting on their thumbs.

All the AAA guys would still get injury callups or force their way up.

But none of this put it off another year until we try nonsense because, Muh Prospex.

They added RP. They added a SP, finally. Now they're 1 player short of 90 wins when plenty of LF were easily had. Always 1 move short in the name of giving the youngsters a chance, before they've even earned it.
Agree to disagree. I'm fine with them playing the long game here. Lets see what we have in Fraley, Shed, Kelenic, France this year. Chances are that Fraley and Shed won't be much, but many would have said the same thing about Moore last year. We'll know by midseason where the holes are. We'll know if Moore is the real deal or not. I don't think Mariners are competing for the World series with or without 1 more player this year, and I don't think it makes a difference in 2022 if they will truly compete or not. Playoffs would be great, but ultimately its about building a team that can win a World Series. I don't think signing 1 guy like Rosario makes that difference this year. It would be nice to have 1 more trade piece at the deadline, but I can see why they didn't go all in on getting someone. They set a price, and if they couldn't get someone at that price, they were fine going forward with what they have.
+1

I think that they are multiple pieces away from going all in as well. Why not just put all your chips in and grab multiple players like the Mets, White Sox, and Padres have been doing, when the time comes. It hasn't come yet.
Adding an MLB quality LF wouldn't be all in you ninny.

But it would get them to 90 wins, an additional trade piece and depth. But who needs that.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:18 am

bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:02 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:55 am
Juliooooo wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:51 am


Agree to disagree. I'm fine with them playing the long game here. Lets see what we have in Fraley, Shed, Kelenic, France this year. Chances are that Fraley and Shed won't be much, but many would have said the same thing about Moore last year. We'll know by midseason where the holes are. We'll know if Moore is the real deal or not. I don't think Mariners are competing for the World series with or without 1 more player this year, and I don't think it makes a difference in 2022 if they will truly compete or not. Playoffs would be great, but ultimately its about building a team that can win a World Series. I don't think signing 1 guy like Rosario makes that difference this year. It would be nice to have 1 more trade piece at the deadline, but I can see why they didn't go all in on getting someone. They set a price, and if they couldn't get someone at that price, they were fine going forward with what they have.
+1

I think that they are multiple pieces away from going all in as well. Why not just put all your chips in and grab multiple players like the Mets, White Sox, and Padres have been doing, when the time comes. It hasn't come yet.
Adding an MLB quality LF wouldn't be all in you ninny.

But it would get them to 90 wins, an additional trade piece and depth. But who needs that.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You know you've lost the debate if you have to resort to "name-calling!" Damn, I thought you were cooler than that.
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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by bpj » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:36 am

Stop acting like adding a LF would be going all in then. You're acting like a ninny. It's not just namecalling 🤷‍♂️

OH MY GAWD, HE WANTS TO ADD A LF ON A 1 YEAR DEAL!

All in? Get real.

They don't need to go all in to contend, we've established that.

They just need a LF so it's not a wasted attempt where they miss the Wild Card by 2 games, very predictably.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:59 am

bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:36 am
Stop acting like adding a LF would be going all in then. You're acting like a ninny. It's not just namecalling 🤷‍♂️

OH MY GAWD, HE WANTS TO ADD A LF ON A 1 YEAR DEAL!

All in? Get real.

They don't need to go all in to contend, we've established that.

They just need a LF so it's not a wasted attempt where they miss the Wild Card by 2 games, very predictably.
If their plan is to bring Kelenic up in April, I'm not sure what the point is?

I'd be for signing a LF if Kelenic was a Summer call up but it doesn't seem that's the case. If anything they were looking for a 2B so they could start Moore in LF for the season and keep him a util.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by bpj » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:12 am

Counting on the kid who has, what, 20 games above A ball, in a year where the Wild Card is within reach is sheer stupidity.

Signing an OF was as much Lewis and Haniger insurance as it was just filling LF. There are 3 question marks in our OF, and room at DH.

Them going after a 2B was a fools errand.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:18 am

bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:12 am
Counting on the kid who has, what, 20 games above A ball, in a year where the Wild Card is within reach is sheer stupidity.

Signing an OF was as much Lewis and Haniger insurance as it was just filling LF. There are 3 question marks in our OF, and room at DH.

Them going after a 2B was a fools errand.
Some players transcend the norm.

Kelenic isn't a project like some guys... they wouldn't be thinking about playing him if they didn't think he was ready to perform like a Tatis Jr... everyone and their mom says he's a superstar.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by bpj » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:22 am

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:18 am
bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:12 am
Counting on the kid who has, what, 20 games above A ball, in a year where the Wild Card is within reach is sheer stupidity.

Signing an OF was as much Lewis and Haniger insurance as it was just filling LF. There are 3 question marks in our OF, and room at DH.

Them going after a 2B was a fools errand.
Some players transcend the norm.

Kelenic isn't a project like some guys... they wouldn't be thinking about playing him if they didn't think he was ready to perform like a Tatis Jr... everyone and their mom says he's a superstar.
They're fools for counting on anything from Kelenic in 2021. Holding the spot open for him by way of not trying to improve at the MLB level should get Dipoto fired when they miss the playoffs by 2 games and Kelenic has a .730 OPS in Tacoma with a 35% K rate.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:27 am

bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:22 am
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:18 am
bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:12 am
Counting on the kid who has, what, 20 games above A ball, in a year where the Wild Card is within reach is sheer stupidity.

Signing an OF was as much Lewis and Haniger insurance as it was just filling LF. There are 3 question marks in our OF, and room at DH.

Them going after a 2B was a fools errand.
Some players transcend the norm.

Kelenic isn't a project like some guys... they wouldn't be thinking about playing him if they didn't think he was ready to perform like a Tatis Jr... everyone and their mom says he's a superstar.
They're fools for counting on anything from Kelenic in 2021. Holding the spot open for him by way of not trying to improve at the MLB level should get Dipoto fired when they miss the playoffs by 2 games and Kelenic has a .730 OPS in Tacoma with a 35% K rate.
I sincerely doubt they miss the playoffs by 2 games.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by bpj » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:28 am

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:27 am
bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:22 am
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:18 am


Some players transcend the norm.

Kelenic isn't a project like some guys... they wouldn't be thinking about playing him if they didn't think he was ready to perform like a Tatis Jr... everyone and their mom says he's a superstar.
They're fools for counting on anything from Kelenic in 2021. Holding the spot open for him by way of not trying to improve at the MLB level should get Dipoto fired when they miss the playoffs by 2 games and Kelenic has a .730 OPS in Tacoma with a 35% K rate.
I sincerely doubt they miss the playoffs by 2 games.
I'm sure you do.

The only problem with last year's team was the black holes exactly like I pointed out before the year started.

Now we're one player short of actually contending.

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Re: Sunday Game thread

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:36 am

bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:28 am
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:27 am
bpj wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:22 am


They're fools for counting on anything from Kelenic in 2021. Holding the spot open for him by way of not trying to improve at the MLB level should get Dipoto fired when they miss the playoffs by 2 games and Kelenic has a .730 OPS in Tacoma with a 35% K rate.
I sincerely doubt they miss the playoffs by 2 games.
I'm sure you do.

The only problem with last year's team was the black holes exactly like I pointed out before the year started.

Now we're one player short of actually contending.
Someone in the AL West is winning 90+ games... not a snowballs chance in hell, even if they signed a MLB-level LF. Things would have to go WAY right.

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