Offseason Plans

[SeattleSportsRUs]

This is how I know most Mariner fans are dumb casuals:

https://twitter.com/SkibaScubaShop/stat ... 3299021830

Imagine thinking that the Padres would trade Tatis Jr. Then imagine that it even enters your mind that trading Kirby for Tatis Jr. would be a risk for... THE MARINERS!?

He is an LL guy so seems he trying to be funny but I don't get why.

Yeah I wondered if it was satire.

Maybe the joke went over my head.

[GL_Storm]

Arkins points out the obvious that the rotation was just meh. "Richly deserved" AS appearance for KK. lol He only made it because the mandatory minimum of one player per team.

https://prospectinsider.com/mariners-ro ... -anderson/

Top flight analysis from Prospect Insider.

[SeattleSportsRUs]

Let me preface this by saying to take these WAR estimates with a grain of salt.

As a baseline with no moves (other than Seager buyout), the lineup looks something like:

JP, SS, 3.0 WAR
France, 1B, 3.5
Haniger, RF, 3.0
Toro, 2B, 2.0
Kelenic, CF, 2.0
Murphy, C, 1.5
Fraley, LF, 1.5
Torrens, DH, 1.0
Moore, 3B, 0

Current lineup, 17.5 WAR.

If they sign Gausman, then

Gausman, 4.0
Marco, 3.0
Flexen, 3.0
Gilbert, 3.0
Dunn/Sheffield/Brash/Kikuchi, 1.0

Rotation 14 WAR

According to Fangraphs top bullpen in terms of WAR was the Rays at 7.9 WAR. The M's came in at 7.0 WAR. I'm predicting some gain at 7.5 WAR.

A zero WAR team is supposed to be good for 47.7 wins. Give the bench 0.3 WAR.

This gives a baseline with Gausman is 87 wins.

Adding Semien (est. 4 WAR) allows Toro to move off 2B to 3B, displacing Moore. This brings it up to 91 wins.

I like bpj's idea of getting Schwarber (est. 2.5 WAR), which would upgrade Torrens and project the total to 92.5 wins.

The entire lineup this year had 11.5 fWAR They are losing Seager and you think they are going to put up 17.5 without any additions? That seems pretty optimistic. Ditto on the Rotation. they put up 7.3 WAR. You are losing Anderson who gave you 0.7 and adding 4 from Gausman which means you need to get 3.4 extra WAR spread out among the other 4 rotation spots to meet your projection of 14. Your projections would require just about everything to go right. No regression from anyone and most guys improving.

The M's aren't going to be a contending team if Kelenic, Toro, JP, France don't take large jumps offensively. The rebuild is predicated on that.

I'm expecting:

Kelenic: .250/.340/.470 +
Toro: .270/.350/430 +
Crawford: .280/.360/.400 +
France: .300/.380/.460 +

That's what the M's are going to need from these guys to take a big leap forward.

That's what the White Sox, Astros, Red Sox etc. get out of the majority of their players.

If these guys take big leaps like the organization is expecting, then we'll see a huge jump in WAR throughout our lineup and we'll actually be a real ballclub. If not, we're just spinning our wheels.

[Sexymarinersfan]

I like bpj's idea of getting Schwarber (est. 2.5 WAR), which would upgrade Torrens and project the total to 92.5 wins.

The entire lineup this year had 11.5 fWAR They are losing Seager and you think they are going to put up 17.5 without any additions? That seems pretty optimistic. Ditto on the Rotation. they put up 7.3 WAR. You are losing Anderson who gave you 0.7 and adding 4 from Gausman which means you need to get 3.4 extra WAR spread out among the other 4 rotation spots to meet your projection of 14. Your projections would require just about everything to go right. No regression from anyone and most guys improving.

The M's aren't going to be a contending team if Kelenic, Toro, JP, France don't take large jumps offensively. The rebuild is predicated on that.

I'm expecting:

Kelenic: .250/.340/.470 +
Toro: .270/.350/430 +
Crawford: .280/.360/.400 +
France: .300/.380/.460 +

That's what the M's are going to need from these guys to take a big leap forward.

That's what the White Sox, Astros, Red Sox etc. get out of the majority of their players.

If these guys take big leaps like the organization is expecting, then we'll see a huge jump in WAR throughout our lineup and we'll actually be a real ballclub. If not, we're just spinning our wheels.

Well, Seattle is replacing all of the dirt and grass in the entire stadium in hopes of boosting offensive production. So it is possible. We hit better as a team on the road, I wonder what some of our players numbers would have looked like had they played all of their games away. Maybe Haniger and Seager might very hit 50 bombs

[D-train]

Are you joking about the grass and dirt?

[SeattleSportsRUs]

Are you joking about the grass and dirt?

They also did it in 2017 and 2020.

I think they really need to shorten it.

[Sexymarinersfan]

Are you joking about the grass and dirt?

Dead serious.

Well his bitch ass is about to exercise his option! Just saw this.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/10/ ... llion.html

[D-train]

That's four years old:

SEATTLE - The Mariners will replace all the grass and dirt at Safeco Field for the first time since the park opened in 1999. The Mariners announced Wednesday that the removal of the sod and dirt will begin this week. The plan is to have the new grass in place by the end of October.Oct 5, 2017

[D-train]

Jesus Christ how weak. So he is the anti Kenji Johjima then.....

[Coeurd’Alene J]

Jesus Christ how weak. So he is the anti Kenji Johjima then.....

We wanted a divorce....Kuichi ku has a pre nup