Who's off the board tally

[Pharmabro]

Starters
1. Verlander 2 years 50 million + 2nd is player option (Q.O>) Injury, but Ace Astros
1. Max Scherzer 3/130M Mets
1Aa Robbie Ray lefty SP 5/115 m with opt out after 3
1A Gausman 5/110 M BJs
1C Stroman 3/71M
1D Zack Greinke Royals 1/13M + incentives
2. Thor 1 X21M ( Q.O) Injury but a TOR history LAA
2A. Morton 1X20 Braves
2B Wainwright 1X17.5 Cards
2c Clayton Kershaw 1/17M with incentives
2d Rodon Giants 2/44M
3. Ed Rod 5 for 77-80M poorest ERA year but best metrics (Q.O.) DET
4A Gray 4/56M Rangers
4. Matz LHP 4/ 44 to 48M St.L
4a Chris Bassit A's to Mets a couple of non top 100 pitching prospects Jt Jinn 3 ERA and former 1st and 2nd Rd pick
4B Sonny Gray Twins/reds trade for a 1st round pick #26 in 2021, and a Dominican with a near 5 ERA 2017 start, made Aball
5. Anthony DeSclafani RHSP 3/36M SF
5A James Paxton 1X10 or 2 / 35M
6A Mantreade A-s to Padres( no name 2021 draft picks
6. Alex Wood sounds like 2 X 10+M/ year SF
7A Rich Hill Redsox 1year / ??M
7. Kluber 8M Rays
7b Kik 3/36m contract Blue Jays
8. Alex Cobb 105 career ERA+
9. Carlos Martinez injured last 2 years and sucked but 2019 he was a 133 ERA+ guy (6 year stretch of #1, or #2 performance)
9b Pineda 1/5,5M w incentives

BP
Aaron Loup a really good LHBP 2 or 3 X 7.5M with 2M buyout LAA
Graveman 3/ 24M RHBP Whitesox
Mark Melancon closer 2 /14M Az
Kenley Jensen 1/16M

POSITION PLAYERS
IF
1AA Corey Seager SS 10/325 Rangers
1A Marcus S. SS,2B 7years 175M Rangers
!AA> Carlos Fn Coreia 35M X 3 w opt outs after 1 and 2
1B Kris Bryant 3B Rockies 7/182 M
1B Freddie Freeman 1B LAD 6/162M 27M average
2. M's get OF/DH LH Jesse Winker 128 career OPS+, and SS-3B Eugeno Saurez 107 career OPS+ from Reds // Dunn, Fraley, and Brandon Williamson & PTBNL
2A Javier Baez SS, 2B. 3B Tigers 6/ 140M
2B Braves get OLSON for Cristian Pache, catcher Shea Langeliers right-handers Ryan Cusick and Joey Estes.
2B. Mitch Garver C/1B/DH 139 and a 157 OPS+ was traded for Isiah fn Kiner Falefa!
1. 1B Brandon Belt LHB, 1B, MVP level bat (Q.O. accepted 1X 18.4) SF
3B Josh Donaldson to Yanks for Gio, and Gary Sanchez
2A Taylor SS/2B/CF 4/64M exactly his projection
2. Eduardo Escobar2B, 3B, SS 2/ 20M (Mets)
3. ADAM FRAZIER TRADED RAY KERR 2B/OF
3a Rizzo ANthony Yanks 2/32M
3. CJ Cron 1B 2 /14.5M

OF
Castellanos Nick Phillies 5 /100M
Starling Marte (4 years / 78 million) Mets
Avisal Garcia 4/53M
DH Nelson Cruz to the Nats 1X13M
Canha 2/26.5 Mets
Pederson 1/6M
Kole Calhoun 1X 5.2m

[Pharmabro]

Verlander 1 X 25M + player option (Q.O>) Injury, but Ace
Thor 1 X21M ( Q.O) Injury but a TOR history
Ed Rod 5 for 77-80M poorest ERA year but best metrics (Q.O.)
Brandon Belt LHB, 1B, MVP level bat (Q.O. accepted 1X 18.4)
Aaron Loup a really good LHBP 2 or 3 X 7.5M with 2M buyout

[ice99]

Heaney, Pina.

[bpj]

So far I'm not disappointed we've missed out on any of them except Belt.

Desclafini would've made a fine Kikuchi replacement, but I'd rather they aim higher anyways.

So far starting pitching prices lower than I expected.

Hopefully that means Gausman and Rodon are in our budget.

[Pharmabro]

Heaney, Pina.

They are not the difference makers I am thinking about. Pina is a 91 OPS+ catcher and we have a 97 OPS+ catcher. Heaney has a 90 ERA+.

Even Alex Wood has a 112 ERA+ career.

[Sexymarinersfan]

At this point we'll be lucky to retain Tyler Anderson. Kirby and Brash not far from making their debuts. But we at least need to grab two starters. Jerry said he was surprised Yusei didn't re-sign which tells me they were gonna roll with him going into next season if true.

Steven Matz supposed to come off the board this week.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/ ... -week.html

[ice99]

Heaney, Pina.

They are not the difference makers I am thinking about. Pina is a 91 OPS+ catcher and we have a 97 OPS+ catcher. Heaney has a 90 ERA+.

Even Alex Wood has a 112 ERA+ career.

OK, next time you should be more specific in your OP.

[bpj]

John Means has been brought up by forum members and seems like a fine mid-rotation addition.

Sounds like giving up homeruns are his issue, which may be eased some going from Baltiless to Seattle.

I'd still prefer adding an ace, but Means would probably be a better second addition than Tyler Anderson.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/ ... means.html

[Sexymarinersfan]

I'd take both and call it a day. And when one of the rookies is ready, move Anderson to the pen to become a lefty specialist and starter insurance in case one of them is injured and goes on the DL.

[bpj]

I'd take both and call it a day. And when one of the rookies is ready, move Anderson to the pen to become a lefty specialist and starter insurance in case one of them is injured and goes on the DL.

Good points big sexy.

If that's the best they can get their hands on, at least its an upgrade from opening day 2021, that's what we're really after in the end.

I hope they aim high, but we should have a solid team regardless.