Jerry says he has meetings set-up

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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by bpj » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:59 pm

There's a good question for everyone-

Who would you rather have starting for us in 2022:

Robinson Cano 2B
or
Jarred Kelenic CF

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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by bpj » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:02 pm

For me it's Cano.

Not my $, I'll take the better player.

Turns out that trade hasn't done much to help us with the rebuild. May have even cost us the playoffs last year by having Kelenic around and giving him the opportunity to drag us down.

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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:02 pm
For me it's Cano.

Not my $, I'll take the better player.

Turns out that trade hasn't done much to help us with the rebuild. May have even cost us the playoffs last year by having Kelenic around and giving him the opportunity to drag us down.
The upside value that Kelenic holds over Canó could bring you back a player better than either. Therefore Kelenic is the more valuable player. And its not even close. You don't think we could get Canó back straight up for Kelenic? We'd be the laughing stock of baseball if that happened.
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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by SeattleSportsRUs » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:46 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:02 pm
For me it's Cano.

Not my $, I'll take the better player.

Turns out that trade hasn't done much to help us with the rebuild. May have even cost us the playoffs last year by having Kelenic around and giving him the opportunity to drag us down.
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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:01 pm

My boy Sewald doing work!! Get Stroman here brother!!
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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by bpj » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:12 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:02 pm
For me it's Cano.

Not my $, I'll take the better player.

Turns out that trade hasn't done much to help us with the rebuild. May have even cost us the playoffs last year by having Kelenic around and giving him the opportunity to drag us down.
The upside value that Kelenic holds over Canó could bring you back a player better than either. Therefore Kelenic is the more valuable player. And its not even close. You don't think we could get Canó back straight up for Kelenic? We'd be the laughing stock of baseball if that happened.
Now redo it with Jesus Montero and Dustin Ackley in mind instead of that extremely generous fake value you posted.

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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:35 pm

but that is about future value, dipoto's favorite angle these days, what bpj is talking about i believe is stripping away the trades and making it to your goal quicker. If they would have spent the money back when they traded for Cano. I see the elements of another Cano situation. Back when traded for Cano Ackley was Kelenic.

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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by harmony » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:53 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:02 pm
For me it's Cano.

Not my $, I'll take the better player.

Turns out that trade hasn't done much to help us with the rebuild. May have even cost us the playoffs last year by having Kelenic around and giving him the opportunity to drag us down.
Steamer projects 2022 WAR of 1.6 in 130 games for Jarred Kelenic and 1.1 in 105 games for Robinson Cano:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jarre ... osition=OF

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/robin ... osition=2B

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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:29 pm

which really doesn't mean anything other than they are pretty comparable players at the opposite ends of the spectrum which is kind of interesting

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Re: Jerry says he has meetings set-up

Post by bpj » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:02 pm

harmony wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:53 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:02 pm
For me it's Cano.

Not my $, I'll take the better player.

Turns out that trade hasn't done much to help us with the rebuild. May have even cost us the playoffs last year by having Kelenic around and giving him the opportunity to drag us down.
Steamer projects 2022 WAR of 1.6 in 130 games for Jarred Kelenic and 1.1 in 105 games for Robinson Cano:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jarre ... osition=OF

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/robin ... osition=2B
Steamer is what it's name implies, imo, a big ol' steamer.

Anybody betting $ that Kelenic will have a higher WAR than Cano in 2022?

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