$87M without White's club optionD-train wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:47 pmfyi that spreadsheet is a few fries short of a happy meal in the out years. 2026 Payroll is $97Mbpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:00 amYeah, their main priority would certainly be whether they think he is going to bring value back for the dollars they commit going forward.
Sending those 3 guys packing just helps them pay for it without a significant bump in the payroll for 2023, and some of 2024.
My point being that it wouldn't be a large boost in payroll going forward. The Mariners committed payrolls go from the high $60M's in 2023/2024 down to $39M by 2025/2026, so signing him still represents a somewhat steady payroll the next 6-8 years. They would definitely need to go up from the $100M current to $150M to continue adding around him by the end, unless of course more youth continues coming.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... g/htmlview
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/seattle-mar ... roll/2026/
Winker good as gone?
Re: Winker good as gone?
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Re: Winker good as gone?
The Mariners currently have 36 players on their 40 man roster. If they leave 6 positions for their rule 5 additions and FA signings, then they'll have to kick 2 non-tenders off the roster. They'll still have room to cut those prearbitration players like Bernadino, and maybe O'Keefe if the roster gets tight.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:10 amAre you sure?D-train wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:39 pmMy math says three. I did forget about Marlowe so my two was one short.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:29 pm
https://theathletic.com/3740190/2022/10 ... decisions/
I appreciate you being 100% onboard with my opinion, but it wasn't really my opinion that I was sharing. However, I didn't disclose this either. But with that said, you know what they say about opinions...
Let’s get to the players the Mariners are likely to protect. I think Campbell, Marlowe and Berroa make it.
Re: Winker good as gone?
Thanks, it doesn't appear Cots updates in season since the Castillo addition and Crawford extension aren't on there.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:47 pmfyi that spreadsheet is a few fries short of a happy meal in the our years. 2026 Payroll is $97Mbpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:00 amYeah, their main priority would certainly be whether they think he is going to bring value back for the dollars they commit going forward.
Sending those 3 guys packing just helps them pay for it without a significant bump in the payroll for 2023, and some of 2024.
My point being that it wouldn't be a large boost in payroll going forward. The Mariners committed payrolls go from the high $60M's in 2023/2024 down to $39M by 2025/2026, so signing him still represents a somewhat steady payroll the next 6-8 years. They would definitely need to go up from the $100M current to $150M to continue adding around him by the end, unless of course more youth continues coming.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... g/htmlview
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/seattle-mar ... roll/2026/
So from Sportrac, current payrolls as is would be:
2023: $92M
2024: $103M
2025: $105.75M (without Marco's $15M option)
2026: $97
If they dump Winker/Flexen/Marco and add Judge at $37.5M/yr, their payrolls through 2026 would look like:
2023: $106.75M
2024: $128.5M
2025: $143.25M
2026: $134.5M
They could even hold onto Winker/Flexen and not really be pushing their previous payroll limits.
Great site, will have to bookmark Sportrac.
Re: Winker good as gone?
It's better to use Cot's 2023- spreadsheet, than the Cot's 2022 spreadsheet.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:56 pmThanks, it doesn't appear Cots updates in season since the Castillo addition and Crawford extension aren't on there.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:47 pmfyi that spreadsheet is a few fries short of a happy meal in the our years. 2026 Payroll is $97Mbpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:00 am
Yeah, their main priority would certainly be whether they think he is going to bring value back for the dollars they commit going forward.
Sending those 3 guys packing just helps them pay for it without a significant bump in the payroll for 2023, and some of 2024.
My point being that it wouldn't be a large boost in payroll going forward. The Mariners committed payrolls go from the high $60M's in 2023/2024 down to $39M by 2025/2026, so signing him still represents a somewhat steady payroll the next 6-8 years. They would definitely need to go up from the $100M current to $150M to continue adding around him by the end, unless of course more youth continues coming.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... g/htmlview
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/seattle-mar ... roll/2026/
So from Sportrac, current payrolls as is would be:
2023: $92M
2024: $103M
2025: $105.75M (without Marco's $15M option)
2026: $97
If they dump Winker/Flexen/Marco and add Judge at $37.5M/yr, their payrolls through 2026 would look like:
2023: $106.75M
2024: $128.5M
2025: $143.25M
2026: $134.5M
They could even hold onto Winker/Flexen and not really be pushing their previous payroll limits.
Great site, will have to bookmark Sportrac.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1520401900
Or even the Fangraphs Seattle Mariners payroll pages.
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Re: Winker good as gone?
Thank you Ice. What about the guys getting reinstated from the IL? The deadline is in two days.ice99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:11 pmThe Mariners currently have 36 players on their 40 man roster. If they leave 6 positions for their rule 5 additions and FA signings, then they'll have to kick 2 non-tenders off the roster. They'll still have room to cut those prearbitration players like Bernadino, and maybe O'Keefe if the roster gets tight.
Re: Winker good as gone?
They've already been reinstated and are included in the 36 players.Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:17 pmThank you Ice. What about the guys getting reinstated from the IL? The deadline is in two days.ice99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:11 pmThe Mariners currently have 36 players on their 40 man roster. If they leave 6 positions for their rule 5 additions and FA signings, then they'll have to kick 2 non-tenders off the roster. They'll still have room to cut those prearbitration players like Bernadino, and maybe O'Keefe if the roster gets tight.
Re: Winker good as gone?
It's SPOTrac, not sportrac. No 'r'