Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

[Donn Beach]

Yuniesky Betancourt

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C75OUEItto0

Everybody all aboard the hype train! WhooHoo!

If he's as good as projected I guess we'll survive JP Crawford a few more seasons.

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Robert Puason was the #3 ranked IFA prospect in 2019, signed by the A's for $5,000,000. Gigantic waste of money, basically, though hopefully he has someone close to him that helped invest in a smart way.

Here's his B-Ref page: https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... ason000rob

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Robert Puason was the #3 ranked IFA prospect in 2019, signed by the A's for $5,000,000. Gigantic waste of money, basically, though hopefully he has someone close to him that helped invest in a smart way.

Here's his B-Ref page: https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... ason000rob

Based on games played, appears he has been injured a lot

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Here are the successes and failures out of the Top 5 ranked IFA prospects from 2013 through 2017. I stopped there because 2018 is getting to be very recent and it's probably too soon to judge their outcomes.

Ohtani is an obvious outlier in 2017, so I wouldn't think of him in the same way as the Latin American players.

2013

1) Eloy Jimenez, OF - 5.3 WAR
2) Micker Adolfo, OF - AAA in 2022
3) Gleyber Torres, INF - 11.5 WAR
4) Marten Gasparini, OF - A+ in 2019, out of baseball
5) Leonardo Molina, OF - A+ in 2019, out of baseball

2014

1) Dermis Garcia, 1B/3B, 0.4 WAR (MLB debut in 2022 with Oakland)
2) Nelson Gomez, 3B, A+ in 2019, and complex in 2021, appears to be out of baseball
3) Adrian Rondon, 3B, A+ in 2021, out of baseball
4) Gilbert Lara, SS, AA in 2022, marginal hitter barely hanging on
5) Juan De Leon, OF A- in 2021, out of baseball

2015

1) Yadier Alvarez, RHP AAA in 2022, ERA above 8 as reliever
2) Vladimir Gutierrez, RHP 1.4 WAR, 150 IP in the majors for Cincinatti, ERA above 5
3) Yusniel Diaz, OF 0.0 WAR based on 1 major league PA in 2022
4) Alfredo Rodriguez, SS AA/AAA in 2022
5) Eddy Martinez, OF AA in 2019, playing in Mex League/Indy Ball

Note: 2015 is notable in that the top 5 prospects were all from Cuba.

2016

1) Luis Robert Jr., OF 7.5 WAR
2) Kevin Maitan INF AA in 2022
3) Adrian Morejon, LHP -0.3 WAR over parts of 4 seasons
4) Norge Ruiz, RHP -0.4 WAR (MLB debut in 2022 with Oakland)
5) Cionel Perez 2.0 WAR (reliever)

Note: All are from Cuba except Maitan

2017

1) Shohei Ohtani, TWP 24.8 WAR
2) Wander Franco, SS 6.1 WAR
3) JP Martinez, OF AA in 2022, may still be a prospect
4) Jelfry Marte, SS A- in 2022, not a prospect
5) Everson Pereira, OF AA in 2022, may still be a prospect

Where is Moncada, Vlad Jr. and Acuna???

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From BA

PROJECTED 2026 LINEUP

Catcher: Cal Raleigh (29)
First Base: Ty France (31)
Second Base: Cole Young (22)
Third Base: Harry Ford (23)
Shortstop: J.P. Crawford (31)
Left Field: Jarred Kelenic (26)
Center Field: Julio Rodriguez (25)
Right Field: Gabriel Gonzalez (22)
Designated Hitter: Eugenio Suarez (34)

No. 1 Starter: Luis Castillo (33)
No. 2 Starter: George Kirby (28)
No. 3 Starter: Logan Gilbert (29)
No. 4 Starter: Robbie Ray (34)
No. 5 Starter: Bryce Miller (27)
Closer: Andres Muñoz (27)

Listed below are the prospects with the best tools within the organization. To go directly to Seattle's Top 10, click here.

BEST TOOLS

Best Hitter for Average: Cole Young
Best Power Hitter: Lazaro Montes
Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Harry Ford
Fastest Baserunner: Jonatan Clase
Best Athlete: Harry Ford
Best Fastball: Bryce Miller
Best Curveball: Juan Pinto
Best Slider: Taylor Dollard
Best Changeup: Emerson Hancock
Best Control: Taylor Dollard
Best Defensive Catcher: Harry Ford
Best Defensive Infielder: Axel Sanchez
Best Infield Arm: Milkar Perez
Best Defensive Outfielder: Cade Marlowe
Best Outfield Arm: Gabriel Gonzalez

[GL_Storm]

Here are the successes and failures out of the Top 5 ranked IFA prospects from 2013 through 2017. I stopped there because 2018 is getting to be very recent and it's probably too soon to judge their outcomes.

Ohtani is an obvious outlier in 2017, so I wouldn't think of him in the same way as the Latin American players.

2013

1) Eloy Jimenez, OF - 5.3 WAR
2) Micker Adolfo, OF - AAA in 2022
3) Gleyber Torres, INF - 11.5 WAR
4) Marten Gasparini, OF - A+ in 2019, out of baseball
5) Leonardo Molina, OF - A+ in 2019, out of baseball

2014

1) Dermis Garcia, 1B/3B, 0.4 WAR (MLB debut in 2022 with Oakland)
2) Nelson Gomez, 3B, A+ in 2019, and complex in 2021, appears to be out of baseball
3) Adrian Rondon, 3B, A+ in 2021, out of baseball
4) Gilbert Lara, SS, AA in 2022, marginal hitter barely hanging on
5) Juan De Leon, OF A- in 2021, out of baseball

2015

1) Yadier Alvarez, RHP AAA in 2022, ERA above 8 as reliever
2) Vladimir Gutierrez, RHP 1.4 WAR, 150 IP in the majors for Cincinatti, ERA above 5
3) Yusniel Diaz, OF 0.0 WAR based on 1 major league PA in 2022
4) Alfredo Rodriguez, SS AA/AAA in 2022
5) Eddy Martinez, OF AA in 2019, playing in Mex League/Indy Ball

Note: 2015 is notable in that the top 5 prospects were all from Cuba.

2016

1) Luis Robert Jr., OF 7.5 WAR
2) Kevin Maitan INF AA in 2022
3) Adrian Morejon, LHP -0.3 WAR over parts of 4 seasons
4) Norge Ruiz, RHP -0.4 WAR (MLB debut in 2022 with Oakland)
5) Cionel Perez 2.0 WAR (reliever)

Note: All are from Cuba except Maitan

2017

1) Shohei Ohtani, TWP 24.8 WAR
2) Wander Franco, SS 6.1 WAR
3) JP Martinez, OF AA in 2022, may still be a prospect
4) Jelfry Marte, SS A- in 2022, not a prospect
5) Everson Pereira, OF AA in 2022, may still be a prospect

Where is Moncada, Vlad Jr. and Acuna???

Vlad Jr. was #7 in 2015.

Moncada didn't appear in the lists. He signed with the Red Sox in February of 2015 for $31.5 million. I think he fell outside the signing rules at that time and then they must have changed the rules for Cubans right after that.

Acuna was never ranked highly as an amateur. He signed with the Braves for 100K in 2014.

[D-train]

Here are the successes and failures out of the Top 5 ranked IFA prospects from 2013 through 2017. I stopped there because 2018 is getting to be very recent and it's probably too soon to judge their outcomes.

Ohtani is an obvious outlier in 2017, so I wouldn't think of him in the same way as the Latin American players.

2013

1) Eloy Jimenez, OF - 5.3 WAR
2) Micker Adolfo, OF - AAA in 2022
3) Gleyber Torres, INF - 11.5 WAR
4) Marten Gasparini, OF - A+ in 2019, out of baseball
5) Leonardo Molina, OF - A+ in 2019, out of baseball

2014

1) Dermis Garcia, 1B/3B, 0.4 WAR (MLB debut in 2022 with Oakland)
2) Nelson Gomez, 3B, A+ in 2019, and complex in 2021, appears to be out of baseball
3) Adrian Rondon, 3B, A+ in 2021, out of baseball
4) Gilbert Lara, SS, AA in 2022, marginal hitter barely hanging on
5) Juan De Leon, OF A- in 2021, out of baseball

2015

1) Yadier Alvarez, RHP AAA in 2022, ERA above 8 as reliever
2) Vladimir Gutierrez, RHP 1.4 WAR, 150 IP in the majors for Cincinatti, ERA above 5
3) Yusniel Diaz, OF 0.0 WAR based on 1 major league PA in 2022
4) Alfredo Rodriguez, SS AA/AAA in 2022
5) Eddy Martinez, OF AA in 2019, playing in Mex League/Indy Ball

Note: 2015 is notable in that the top 5 prospects were all from Cuba.

2016

1) Luis Robert Jr., OF 7.5 WAR
2) Kevin Maitan INF AA in 2022
3) Adrian Morejon, LHP -0.3 WAR over parts of 4 seasons
4) Norge Ruiz, RHP -0.4 WAR (MLB debut in 2022 with Oakland)
5) Cionel Perez 2.0 WAR (reliever)

Note: All are from Cuba except Maitan

2017

1) Shohei Ohtani, TWP 24.8 WAR
2) Wander Franco, SS 6.1 WAR
3) JP Martinez, OF AA in 2022, may still be a prospect
4) Jelfry Marte, SS A- in 2022, not a prospect
5) Everson Pereira, OF AA in 2022, may still be a prospect

Where is Moncada, Vlad Jr. and Acuna???

Vlad Jr. was #7 in 2015.

Moncada didn't appear in the lists. He signed with the Red Sox in February of 2015 for $31.5 million. I think he fell outside the signing rules at that time and then they must have changed the rules for Cubans right after that.

Acuna was never ranked highly as an amateur. He signed with the Braves for 100K in 2014.

Interesting. Thanks again.

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Here is the Baseball America Top Ten for the Mariners. They'll expand the list to Top 30 I think right before spring training, or maybe during the first week or something like that. It should coincide with the release of their Prospect Handbook for 2023.

1) Harry Ford, C
2) Cole Young, SS
3) Bryce Miller, RHP
4) Gabriel Gonzalez, OF
5) Emerson Hancock, RHP
6) Taylor Dollard, RHP
7) Bryan Woo, RHP
8) Michael Arroyo, SS
9) Tyler Locklear, 3B
10) Prelander Berroa, RHP

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10. Prelander Berroa | RHP
Born: Apr 18, 2000
Bats: R Throws: R
Ht.: 5'11" Wt.: 170
Signed By: Fred Guerrero (Twins).
Minors: 4-3 | 2.86 ERA | 150 SO | 63 BB | 101 IP


Track Record: Berroa initially worked out for teams as an infielder before converting to pitching and signed with the Twins for $200,000 on the first day of the 2016 international signing period. The Twins traded Berroa to the Giants as one of three prospects for reliever Sam Dyson at the 2019 trade deadline, and the Giants subsequently flipped Berroa to the Mariners for utility infielder Donnie Walton early in the 2022 season. Berroa took off after the trade and had his best season under the Mariners' tutelage. He finished with a career-low 2.68 ERA, a career-high 150 strikeouts and reached Double-A for the first time.

Scouting Report: Berroa is undersized at 5-foot-11 but pitches bigger than his stature. His explosive, plus-plus fastball sits 96-99 mph and touches 101-102 with late life to get swings and misses in the strike zone. He began throwing his slider more after joining the Mariners and morphed it into a plus downer in the upper 80s that gets swings over the top. He is able to land his slider for strikes early in counts in addition to putting batters away with it. He also has a firm, well below-average changeup in the low 90s he rarely throws. Berroa gets ugly swings from good hitters, but his control is below-average and he struggles to stay focused for more than a few innings at a time. He no longer throws balls to the backstop as he did in his younger years, but his effortful delivery will always limit his strike-throwing. He pitched fewer than five innings in 21 of his 26 starts even during his breakout 2022 season.

The Future: Berroa will continue starting for now, but his size, durability and control will make him a hard-throwing reliever in the majors. He has a chance to be a setup man who pitches seventh and eighth innings if his control improves another tick.

Scouting Grades: Fastball: 70. Slider: 60. Changeup: 30. Control: 40