I think it's over
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Re: I think it's over
The thing that frustrates me about watching the Hawks is nothing ever seems to come easy...
Almost every big play we made is by the skin of our teeth... big catches are in tight coverage... Carson needs to run through 2-3 guys to hit on a 10-20 yard run... we just never catch anyone off guard. I can count on one hand the amount of times where on a 3rd down passing play a receiver is just flat out open... we never seem to be able to find vacant areas of the field with regularity... almost all big plays are on Russ scrambling or a deep contested ball... I'd just like to see us catch a defense off guard a few times in a game rather than once in a rare while.
I think when someone says they'd like to see more screens it's to alleviate what seems like constant pressure on the OL and Russ... I think when someone says they'd like to see Russ run a bit more early in games it's to add another component that the defense has to account for. I think when someone says they'd like to see the Hawks offense go to a random hurry up every once in a while that would be great because it just makes the opposing team think a whole hell of a lot more than they have to against what we're currently showing.
There's only one play this year that went for a TD I can remember where an opposing defense was truly confused... and that was DK's open 40-yard bomb... other than that? It's been an uphill battle seemingly on every play.
Just doing something different like twice a game that makes other teams think would make a huge difference in my opinion.
Almost every big play we made is by the skin of our teeth... big catches are in tight coverage... Carson needs to run through 2-3 guys to hit on a 10-20 yard run... we just never catch anyone off guard. I can count on one hand the amount of times where on a 3rd down passing play a receiver is just flat out open... we never seem to be able to find vacant areas of the field with regularity... almost all big plays are on Russ scrambling or a deep contested ball... I'd just like to see us catch a defense off guard a few times in a game rather than once in a rare while.
I think when someone says they'd like to see more screens it's to alleviate what seems like constant pressure on the OL and Russ... I think when someone says they'd like to see Russ run a bit more early in games it's to add another component that the defense has to account for. I think when someone says they'd like to see the Hawks offense go to a random hurry up every once in a while that would be great because it just makes the opposing team think a whole hell of a lot more than they have to against what we're currently showing.
There's only one play this year that went for a TD I can remember where an opposing defense was truly confused... and that was DK's open 40-yard bomb... other than that? It's been an uphill battle seemingly on every play.
Just doing something different like twice a game that makes other teams think would make a huge difference in my opinion.
Last edited by IStillLoveTheMs on Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: I think it's over
Fair enough.. As fat as in game coaching strategy. Carroll is a shit show. It's not changing anytime soon. Colin Cowherd often says that Wilson saved his job in Seattle . It's true. I see why he got fired from New England and Jets.Michael K. wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:42 amI am not talking as much scheme as I am style. He has an MVP candidate at QB, and won’t open anything up until we are behind, and clams up when ahead. He coaches the same way, afraid to lose instead of trying to win. Take a knee at the end of the game...instead we punt it away and hope for a stop.
And if we are this smash mouth power run team Pete claims, short yardage in plus territory shouldn’t be a punt. Don’t tell me one thing and do another.
Fucking fake FG against Atlanta that made about as much since as tits on a boar, but going for it there wasn’t worthwhile? Both decisions lost him the game. It was especially driven home when Baltimore didn’t even attempt a chip shot, and instead went for it in the same down and distance.
Re: I think it's over
I was just thinking about DK being wide open on that TD pass. Why haven't we sent him on more go routes? I don't remember any other attempts at that despite that one working to perfection.IStillLoveTheMs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:03 amThe thing that frustrates me about watching the Hawks is nothing ever seems to come easy...
Almost every big play we made is by the skin of our teeth... big catches are in tight coverage... Carson needs to run through 2-3 guys to hit on a 10-20 yard run... we just never catch anyone off guard. I can count on one hand the amount of times where on a 3rd down passing play a receiver is just flat out open... we never seem to be able to find vacant areas of the field with regularity... almost all big plays are on Russ scrambling or a deep contested ball... I'd just like to see us catch a defense off guard a few times in a game rather than once in a rare while.
I think when someone says they'd like to see more screens it's to alleviate what seems like constant pressure on the OL and Russ... I think when someone says they'd like to see Russ run a bit more early in games it's to add another component that the defense has to account for. I think when someone says they'd like to see the Hawks offense go to a random hurry up every once in a while that would be great because it just makes the opposing team think a whole hell of a lot more than they have to against what we're currently showing.
There's only one play this year that went for a TD I can remember where an opposing defense was truly confused... and that was DK's open 40-yard bomb... other than that? It's been an uphill battle seemingly on every play.
Just doing something different like twice a game that makes other teams think would make a huge difference in my opinion.
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They do send him on go routes often. Rams game was a crosser off PA. When the other team is in Cover 2 hard to beat them over the top. That's where the offense is missing Dissly big time. He was destroying teams in the seam when they did that.
This might not be the best time to bring it up. You know when Peters had that pick six? I heard a couple people say it in the stands. Field Gulls did a All -22 on it. Metcalf was WIDE open. He beat his man by 5 yards ( and pulling away) when Wilson threw that pick... Damn it that hurts 14 point swing.
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Yeah, i mentioned in a post a few days ago. Millen was all over that. He said it would have been the easiest TD pass of Wilson's career. So why didn't RW even look his way? Or maybe that kind of thing happens with all QBs way more often than we know.
They need to start looking his way more often.
They need to start looking his way more often.
Re: I think it's over
Ball game right there. Brutal.ThePro wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:49 amThey do send him on go routes often. Rams game was a crosser off PA. When the other team is in Cover 2 hard to beat them over the top. That's where the offense is missing Dissly big time. He was destroying teams in the seam when they did that.
This might not be the best time to bring it up. You know when Peters had that pick six? I heard a couple people say it in the stands. Field Gulls did a All -22 on it. Metcalf was WIDE open. He beat his man by 5 yards ( and pulling away) when Wilson threw that pick... Damn it that hurts 14 point swing.
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Because this seems to be Schotty's favorite movie:Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:58 amYeah, i mentioned in a post a few days ago. Millen was all over that. He said it would have been the easiest TD pass of Wilson's career. So why didn't RW even look his way? Or maybe that kind of thing happens with all QBs way more often than we know.
They need to start looking his way more often.
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Good movie but that goes against the very philosophy of his offense. I think you guys get frustrated with the final score and come up with analysis that just doesn't make sense. The YPA is among the highest in the league and Wilson is # 1 or #2 in deep pass plays.D-train wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:08 amBecause this seems to be Schotty's favorite movie:Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:58 amYeah, i mentioned in a post a few days ago. Millen was all over that. He said it would have been the easiest TD pass of Wilson's career. So why didn't RW even look his way? Or maybe that kind of thing happens with all QBs way more often than we know.
They need to start looking his way more often.
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Yeah, I guess I just hate the sideways pass so much I wish they would be stricken from the playbook forever and not even be used once a season. We used them twice vs. Ravens and the result was a pick six and a failed 3rd and two in their territory.ThePro wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:34 amGood movie but that goes against the very philosophy of his offense. I think you guys get frustrated with the final score and come up with analysis that just doesn't make sense. The YPA is among the highest in the league and Wilson is # 1 or #2 in deep pass plays.D-train wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:08 amBecause this seems to be Schotty's favorite movie:Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:58 amYeah, i mentioned in a post a few days ago. Millen was all over that. He said it would have been the easiest TD pass of Wilson's career. So why didn't RW even look his way? Or maybe that kind of thing happens with all QBs way more often than we know.
They need to start looking his way more often.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sideway ... qxArcNtluM:
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The other sideways play that Schotty likes to pull out on 3rd down is the fly sweep. The one that always seems to result in the ball carrier getting taken down somewhere in the backfield after several offensive linemen miss their blocks or get blown backwards off the snap. But he never learns.