The slightly too early trade deadline thread

[Juliooooo]

Arguing wong and teo vs Hanniger and Frazier is pretty bad. Really a wash. No real money spent this off season

This team has two things going against it. An owner who loves profit and not winning. And Dipoto wants everybody to think how great and creative he is over everybody else. Then we wonder why we are basically the same.

It is what it is. The Mariner way.

Yep, they replaced those 2, lost Winker (while not great, he still managed to hit a little and get on base, and was at least an average hitter, better than Teo is now) and Santana (didn’t hit a lot, but was at least clutch).

Santana was a mid season add. Last year they sorted out the rotation, BP, and position players.

They still didn’t upgrade the offense overall from what they had last season and they needed to.

[Big_Maple]

Marco if healthy, little value but we are not,picking up,his 12 mil option, Flexen again a little value. I am hoping there is at least one dumber GM out there then Dipoto that would take Wong thinking it something in Tank. Any reliever or player that will be a FA next year.

You know, I don’t disagree. But I keep coming back to the fact they no one is going to want players that are totally tanking - why would you sign a struggling player at the trade deadline if you thought you were in contention? Equally, who would take on Marco’s contract? His fastball sits at about 88 mph. My grandmother drives faster than his fastball on her way to Safeway. And as you point out, he’s due to make $12M next year.

Basically, we want to jettison all of our crap, but no one would want it. We have to ride out those shitty contracts. Even Flexen isn’t exactly trade bait - he didn’t even crack the starting rotation.

But here’s the thing, this sounds a lot like we’ve given up on the season, and we’re having a fire sale. And fire sales, my friends, sound a lot like the start of a rebuild.

As the French would say, q’uest que fuck? Didn’t we just have a rebuild? What is the master plan here?

[bpj]

They seem to have already achieved their goal- max profit.

[bhofferb]

Marco if healthy, little value but we are not,picking up,his 12 mil option, Flexen again a little value. I am hoping there is at least one dumber GM out there then Dipoto that would take Wong thinking it something in Tank. Any reliever or player that will be a FA next year.

You know, I don’t disagree. But I keep coming back to the fact they no one is going to want players that are totally tanking - why would you sign a struggling player at the trade deadline if you thought you were in contention? Equally, who would take on Marco’s contract? His fastball sits at about 88 mph. My grandmother drives faster than his fastball on her way to Safeway. And as you point out, he’s due to make $12M next year.

Basically, we want to jettison all of our crap, but no one would want it. We have to ride out those shitty contracts. Even Flexen isn’t exactly trade bait - he didn’t even crack the starting rotation.

But here’s the thing, this sounds a lot like we’ve given up on the season, and we’re having a fire sale. And fire sales, my friends, sound a lot like the start of a rebuild.

As the French would say, q’uest que fuck? Didn’t we just have a rebuild? What is the master plan here?

And by the time the next rebuild is complete our young starting pitchers will be rich, playing for teams that aren’t cheap in free agency and Enjoying some run support

[Big_Maple]

And by the time the next rebuild is complete our young starting pitchers will be rich, playing for teams that aren’t cheap in free agency and Enjoying some run support

Yep. You’re not wrong.

And as bpj says, as long as owners make money hand over fist, then everything is copacetic.

[GL_Storm]

Right now, you have to think the Mariners will be sellers at the deadline. Lots of good bullpen pieces, maybe Suarez, maybe Teoscar, maybe even France though I sort of doubt that one since he's cheap and under team control.

[Seattle or Bust]

Just listened to the Locked On Morons Podcast...

Ty Dane IHaveNoIdeaWhatTheFuckImTalkingAboutZales thinks the M's should trade for Ramiel Tapia to play DH and OF. All .700 OPS of him.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

[Big_Maple]

Just listened to the Locked On Morons Podcast...

Ty Dane IHaveNoIdeaWhatTheFuckImTalkingAboutZales thinks the M's should trade for Ramiel Tapia to play DH and OF. All .700 OPS of him.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Will, batters become better whenever they come to Seattle. Are hitting coach turns the batting call gods.

[Pharmabro]

Just listened to the Locked On Morons Podcast...

Ty Dane IHaveNoIdeaWhatTheFuckImTalkingAboutZales thinks the M's should trade for Ramiel Tapia to play DH and OF. All .700 OPS of him.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

He also was pushing that he would be a good platoon bat. And I would say maybe? But the M’s need to be looking for somebody that is good and not somebody that is better than your 26th best player or whatever.

I have been watching speculation on buyers/sellers/maybe’

White Sox were 6 under at the time but a number of posters wanted Tim Anderson’

2B/SS ANderson .273 .313 .320 .633 76 OPS+

What a wild line a .273 average but a 0.040 walk rate and an ISO of 0.047 WTF?

But this year appears to be so unclear as to who are the buyers and sellers. I mean, do the dumb ass angels finally trade Ohtani?

Are the Padres sellers? Is Soto on the table, Hader?

[Seattle or Bust]

Just listened to the Locked On Morons Podcast...

Ty Dane IHaveNoIdeaWhatTheFuckImTalkingAboutZales thinks the M's should trade for Ramiel Tapia to play DH and OF. All .700 OPS of him.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

He also was pushing that he would be a good platoon bat. And I would say maybe? But the M’s need to be looking for somebody that is good and not somebody that is better than your 26th best player or whatever.

I have been watching speculation on buyers/sellers/maybe’

White Sox were 6 under at the time but a number of posters wanted Tim Anderson’

2B/SS ANderson .273 .313 .320 .633 76 OPS+

What a wild line a .273 average but a 0.040 walk rate and an ISO of 0.047 WTF?

But this year appears to be so unclear as to who are the buyers and sellers. I mean, do the dumb ass angels finally trade Ohtani?

Are the Padres sellers? Is Soto on the table, Hader?

Tapia is dogshit.

The M's would look like total morons giving up prospects for a guy who has a .700 OPS and was signed on a Minor League contract because nobody wanted him heading into '23.

Who would he platoon with? The M's have 3x outfielders... they're gonna start sitting Teo against righties and admit that failure? Ya right. They also said they want him to DH. Mike Ford will put up equal numbers to Tapia, if not better... and you wont be tempted to put him in the outfield where Tapia is a total liability. .700 OPS DH, such aspirations. God some M's fans...