The slightly too early trade deadline thread

[Seattle or Bust]

Well, these are 2x players the LO podcast mentioned. Another AL West team trying harder than Jerry Dipoto.

The angels are trying harder than the mariners, a lot harder. Is that a good thing or bad for them? They seem to have shoved whatever chips they can come up with on an attempt to make the playoffs this season.

I think they're pretty much screwed and are just trying to save some sort of face before a massive rebuild.

Ohtani isn't signing there even if they somehow make a wild card.

Trout has become injury prone and is making $35.5 million the next 8 seasons. Rendon is always injured and is making $38 million the next 3 years. You can't have 2x players eating $80 million in payroll who don't see the field.

Their farm is now by far the worst in the league after trading for Giolito and others.

They can continue to try to pay guys to play there for one year... but depth will always be an issue and they won't have Ohtani to cover their sins.

[ice99]

Ya bro. You got me.

Except that you're the weirdo who is always passive aggressively replying to my comments 6 months after you were told not to.

The thing is that you'll say something about Flexn vs. Snell for a couple of pages. Then you want it to be forgotten. I bit my tongue. I didn't say anything as Snell outperformed Flexen by a huge amount from the trade deadline to the end of the season. But Snell came back into the news and keeping Flexen was a mistake, not a total mistake, but still a mistake. I want to say something about Snell and Flexen, and not have to be silent.

When the hell did I recently say something about Flexen vs Snell?

I like that Snell is pitching well and advocated trading for him and Soto in a recent post. Literally the only thing I've said about him in months.

It was Donn who replied to you about Flexen... not me.

Snell was mentioned in the news, on MLB Trade Rumors, or some other site, and so was Flexen. You like it when you advocated for something and it turned out to be true, correct? Well, same here. I'm not sure what Harmony has to do with it, or whether they became mariners has to do with it either.

[Seattle or Bust]

The thing is that you'll say something about Flexn vs. Snell for a couple of pages. Then you want it to be forgotten. I bit my tongue. I didn't say anything as Snell outperformed Flexen by a huge amount from the trade deadline to the end of the season. But Snell came back into the news and keeping Flexen was a mistake, not a total mistake, but still a mistake. I want to say something about Snell and Flexen, and not have to be silent.

When the hell did I recently say something about Flexen vs Snell?

I like that Snell is pitching well and advocated trading for him and Soto in a recent post. Literally the only thing I've said about him in months.

It was Donn who replied to you about Flexen... not me.

It was in the news, on MLB Trade Rumors, or some other site. You like it when what you advocated for something and it turned out to be true, correct? Well, same here. I'm not sure what Harmony has to do with it, or whether they became mariners has to do with it either.

Great, I don't really care.

It's just ironic that you post about Flexen vs Snell, react to Donn who made a passive statement about Snell and Flexen that seemingly made you upset and feel the need to prove a point... and then come after me a few posts later about something sarcastic I said about Ohtani and the Angels.

What is your deal?

[ice99]

When the hell did I recently say something about Flexen vs Snell?

I like that Snell is pitching well and advocated trading for him and Soto in a recent post. Literally the only thing I've said about him in months.

It was Donn who replied to you about Flexen... not me.

It was in the news, on MLB Trade Rumors, or some other site. You like it when what you advocated for something and it turned out to be true, correct? Well, same here. I'm not sure what Harmony has to do with it, or whether they became mariners has to do with it either.

Great, I don't really care.

It's just ironic that you post about Flexen vs Snell, react to Donn who made a passive statement about Snell and Flexen that seemingly made you upset and feel the need to prove a point... and then come after me a few posts later about something sarcastic I said about Ohtani and the Angels.

What is your deal?

You pointed out that you wanted Judge and Joc Pederson recently. You like to point out when you feel that you were correct, by mentioning it again, amongst other things. I do the same thing. I wasn't upset with Donn, why would you say that? Why are you trying to make more out of it...no...I get it now.

You even tried make something out of Harmony, just because, like you said, you don't care. Weird.

[Lamda]

The Angels fans have to be crapping in their pants now - and if I was their GM i'd quit when the season is over. The owner killed their team for the next few years all in a hopeless dream of keeping Ohtani when everyone else in the world knew he was gone.

[Donn Beach]

Well, these are 2x players the LO podcast mentioned. Another AL West team trying harder than Jerry Dipoto.

The angels are trying harder than the mariners, a lot harder. Is that a good thing or bad for them? They seem to have shoved whatever chips they can come up with on an attempt to make the playoffs this season.

I think they're pretty much screwed and are just trying to save some sort of face before a massive rebuild.

Ohtani isn't signing there even if they somehow make a wild card.

Trout has become injury prone and is making $35.5 million the next 8 seasons. Rendon is always injured and is making $38 million the next 3 years. You can't have 2x players eating $80 million in payroll who don't see the field.

Their farm is now by far the worst in the league after trading for Giolito and others.

They can continue to try to pay guys to play there for one year... but depth will always be an issue and they won't have Ohtani to cover their sins.

I don't know what ohtani might be thinking. I've always felt there could be a possibility he re-signed with the angels, if he felt comfortable there. Now whether Arty should be throwing recourses at the attempt, i don't know. I don't think it's about saving face, i think Arty is fully committed to trying to get ohtani signed again.

[seth8734]

Fuckkkk Angels lineup is getting stronger and deeper with Trout coming back. They are fighting while Jerry is looking for a medicore hitter and proud of our massive strikeout team doesn't want any help. Fuckkkkkkk

[Seattle or Bust]

The angels are trying harder than the mariners, a lot harder. Is that a good thing or bad for them? They seem to have shoved whatever chips they can come up with on an attempt to make the playoffs this season.

I think they're pretty much screwed and are just trying to save some sort of face before a massive rebuild.

Ohtani isn't signing there even if they somehow make a wild card.

Trout has become injury prone and is making $35.5 million the next 8 seasons. Rendon is always injured and is making $38 million the next 3 years. You can't have 2x players eating $80 million in payroll who don't see the field.

Their farm is now by far the worst in the league after trading for Giolito and others.

They can continue to try to pay guys to play there for one year... but depth will always be an issue and they won't have Ohtani to cover their sins.

I don't know what ohtani might be thinking. I've always felt there could be a possibility he re-signed with the angels, if he felt comfortable there. Now whether Arty should be throwing recourses at the attempt, i don't know. I don't think it's about saving face, i think Arty is fully committed to trying to get ohtani signed again.

If Ohtani has a brain cell he can see the walls crumbling around this Angels franchise. He says he wants to win... the Angels have never finished above .500 with him on the team and that was with more payroll flexibility and functioning farm systems in his earlier years with the club.

Whatever contract he signs will be somewhere in the range of around $50 million AAV. They're going to be paying him, Trout, and Rendon some $130 million moving forward... the Angels have shown a willingness to go just south of the luxury tax threshold meaning they'll have $100 million to go out and fill out a roster that is losing every player they just traded for, and many others that they gave 1-year contracts to. And they have to do so with 0 farm system options that keep depth cheap.

Judge back to the Yankees made every bit of sense given the tradition and such (although he might be regretting that decisions as the Yanks are now in a similar position to the Angels)... the Angels have no tradition and Ohtani's achievements have far less flair because they haven't come with any winning attached to them.

There is just no blueprint for them to be a winning baseball team moving forward.



Here is the Angels next 22 games... I'll be shocked if they come out of that with a .500 record.

[Donn Beach]

I'm aware of all that. Again, i don't know what ohtani is thinking. Trout, baseball's greatest player did it so as far as I'm concerned there's precedent

[D-train]

Another made up trade From MLB.com

This trade deadline is going to be a nothing burger....

The Orioles and Mariners will make the most interesting trade of the Deadline
The elite O’s and middling M’s are properly paired at this Deadline, because Seattle has young, controllable starters that Baltimore needs, and Baltimore has the young, controllable bats that Seattle craves.

If the Mariners were to ship Logan Gilbert to the Orioles for infielder Jordan Westburg, outfielder Heston Kjerstad and lefty DL Hall, both clubs would be addressing their needs in a dynamic way, and the rest of us would have long-term fodder for deal dissection. Everybody wins!