So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

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Post by Pharmabro » Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:33 am

Another day, another several possibilities off the board

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:41 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:28 am
If the M's were thinking about 3/60 for Walker...

5/$125-$135 wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Alonso who is 3 years younger.

I'd much rather give Alonso $25 million a year who has a chance at 40+ homers and a .850+ OPS season than $12 million to someone like Santana.
Or perhaps its a repeat of last year where guys sign last minute for short-term deals with opt outs... maybe he'll take a 3-year $75 million with an opt out after 2025.

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Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:06 am

The Mariners GIANT offseason plan!

https://youtu.be/PKIpCPS-oZc?si=AT4AvAY1B7i_mG-A

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Post by bpj » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:45 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:28 am
If the M's were thinking about 3/60 for Walker...

5/$125-$135 wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Alonso who is 3 years younger.

I'd much rather give Alonso $25 million a year who has a chance at 40+ homers and a .850+ OPS season than $12 million to someone like Santana.
Agreed, if they were willing to go anywhere close to 3/60 for Walker, then going 5 or 6 years for the guy who is 4 years younger makes much more sense imo.

Zero downside to adding that bat to the mix. Even just replacing Castillo's salary would almost pay for all of Alonso. Then add Sasaki and your team's much better.

The last 3 seasons (the ages shown appear to be what they were in 2022):
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Post by GL_Storm » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:55 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:11 am
harmony wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:08 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:32 am


I would do it but the Brewers probably wouldn't unless they focus on Locklear's success in AA vs. everything that happened after he was promoted to AAA MLB.
Then again, Steamer projects versatile free agent first baseman Ty France with a 2025 wRC+ of 107 and 0.7 WAR in 81 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/ty-fr ... #dashboard

Perhaps Edgar Martinez could work wonders with Ty France.

Or not. :D
I don't think the M's let France go solely b/c of poor performance.

I think they let him go because he was aloof and seemingly didn't care as much as he should have.
Do you have a source or is this just something you made up?

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Post by DavidGee24 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:56 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:28 am
If the M's were thinking about 3/60 for Walker...

5/$125-$135 wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Alonso who is 3 years younger.

I'd much rather give Alonso $25 million a year who has a chance at 40+ homers and a .850+ OPS season than $12 million to someone like Santana.
Walker, Goldschmidt and Santana are off the board thank goodness, leaving Alonso. We'd be idiots NOT to go aggressively after him. So of course we won't.

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Post by GL_Storm » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:02 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:56 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:28 am
If the M's were thinking about 3/60 for Walker...

5/$125-$135 wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Alonso who is 3 years younger.

I'd much rather give Alonso $25 million a year who has a chance at 40+ homers and a .850+ OPS season than $12 million to someone like Santana.
Walker, Goldschmidt and Santana are off the board thank goodness, leaving Alonso. We'd be idiots NOT to go aggressively after him. So of course we won't.
If we were making bets, I would put money on him either staying with the Mets or signing with the Giants.

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:05 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:55 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:11 am
harmony wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:08 am

Then again, Steamer projects versatile free agent first baseman Ty France with a 2025 wRC+ of 107 and 0.7 WAR in 81 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/ty-fr ... #dashboard

Perhaps Edgar Martinez could work wonders with Ty France.

Or not. :D
I don't think the M's let France go solely b/c of poor performance.

I think they let him go because he was aloof and seemingly didn't care as much as he should have.
Do you have a source or is this just something you made up?
My source is going to like 20 games last year and watching him up close.

All the guy does is goof off... before the game acting like a 12 year old playing little pranks like hitting people's hats off... jumping for high fives b/c he's short... At 1B, chumming it up with anyone and everyone he could while they're losing 8-2 and he's 0-4 with 3x weak grounders and a K.

That stuff is fine when you're performing. It's not fine when you're not.

He needed to put his f'n head down and get to work.

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by Hasslecracked » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:11 am

We either are rolling with Locklear or re-signing Turner unfortunately guys. No way they pay for Alonso lol

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by GL_Storm » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:16 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:05 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:55 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:11 am


I don't think the M's let France go solely b/c of poor performance.

I think they let him go because he was aloof and seemingly didn't care as much as he should have.
Do you have a source or is this just something you made up?
My source is going to like 20 games last year and watching him up close.

All the guy does is goof off... before the game acting like a 12 year old playing little pranks like hitting people's hats off... jumping for high fives b/c he's short... At 1B, chumming it up with anyone and everyone he could while they're losing 8-2 and he's 0-4 with 3x weak grounders and a K.

That stuff is fine when you're performing. It's not fine when you're not.

He needed to put his f'n head down and get to work.
You don't have a source. You're just projecting your own feelings and biases about the player onto the organization. Classic keyboard jockey stuff.

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