So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

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Post by Vogelbomb » Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:31 am

Has not been injury riddled cripple entire career.

His addition means likely see ya later Mastrobouni (from 40). Improvement.
Means Dylan Moore isn't the everyday 3b. Improvement
Means Moore can toggle between 2b/ss to give Bliss and JP rest. JP likely misses some time again. Improvement there.
Allows Solano to be a utility guy at 1b and 3b as needed.
Polanco is also a switch hitter and a guy that works well with Edgar.

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Post by bpj » Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:38 am

Vogelbomb wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:31 am
Has not been injury riddled cripple entire career.

His addition means likely see ya later Mastrobouni (from 40). Improvement.
Means Dylan Moore isn't the everyday 3b. Improvement
Means Moore can toggle between 2b/ss to give Bliss and JP rest. JP likely misses some time again. Improvement there.
Allows Solano to be a utility guy at 1b and 3b as needed.
Polanco is also a switch hitter and a guy that works well with Edgar.
What gives you the impression he works well with Edgar?

He seemed to do just as bad after.
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Post by bpj » Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:40 am

I worked out our 5 starting pitchers ERA as a unit.

Home: 127 earned runs in 435.333 innings = 2.63 ERA

Away: 192 earned runs in 441.333 innings = 3.92 ERA


They're a little above average pitching staff when you take them out of T-Mobile.

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Post by GL_Storm » Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:02 am

D-train wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:36 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:25 am
bpj wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:37 am


Or at least having both is a better safety net, in their opinion.

Unfortunately we know that $7M buys Polanco at least the whole first half of the season of at bats even if he struggles again.
Hopefully Bliss surprises us and Polanco gets a lot of bench time.
Unrelated. Bliss is the 2B and Polanco the 3B.
Yeah, we'll see. Maybe it'll work.

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Post by Pharmabro » Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:51 am

So, I guess it looks something like this

C. Cal**
1B. Raley*
2B. Bliss
3B. Polanco
SS. JP *
RF. Robles
CF. JRod
LF. Randy
DH? Shenton*

Bench:
Super Utility Moore
C Garver
Inf. Solano
INF/Outfield Shenton*
OF Canzone*/ Haniger

Fk all, Haniger should have been dealt away with a prospect in the 1st week to the W.S. or Marlins. My best generic plan while sticking to the "Budget". Trade a couple of mid top 30-ranked prospects to the Malrins for Burger. Trade for 2B Lowe with the Rays, trade Haniger and prospects for salary relief and a pack of 89 Upper deck baseball cards. Sign 1B Pete Alonso 5/125M or trade for Yandy, etc, etc.
Vs
Polanco, Solano, and Shentono :lol:

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Post by Pharmabro » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:04 am

And,

What makes it more awkward is that you have to pencil in the two Mitch's who are making a combined 30M to play:

Garver C #2, (Max 30 games if Cal stays healthy + 28% of DH ABs. (If he is hotter vs Left-handed pitchers than Mitch #2. That is 70 games +/-. If he has a stud year vs lefties, that could be huge for the team.

Haniger was dog shit vs LHP last year but essentially, he is competing against Garver for that 28% of DH ABs vs LHP

Not to mention that Solano might be the majority RH platoon partner for Raley (28%) while maybe taking some time at 2B and 3B. But he has been a 110 OPS+ bat the last 6 years.

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Post by Lamda » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:05 am

Vogelbomb wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:00 am
To all who hate it... what would you have done instead? What amazing move really moves the needle for you?
lol ok so tell us - who are you in the FO really? You can't be this dense otherwise...This move is just a move to spend the 15mill they had to spend this offseason so they can say they did it. They haven't changed the fact that we still only have 4 legit hitters, all with bad batting averages, and we did jakshite to fix that this offseason. Maybe 5 if you count Raley but i'm still on the fence on that guy. It will be the same thing as last year - hope rides on the first 4 hitters cause its easy outs once you get past them.

We have the pitching to challenge for the WS but we got a high school offense...and to state it again for you - YOU AND THE FO DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO FIX IT!!! Ownerships billionaires couldn't put in a measly 30mill into this season to get 2 legit bats to put us over the top cause they plan to fail...we've stated many times - if the team wins then more seats are filled and the profits soar... but they don't plan for that, they plan to fail and only sell the worst-case scenario of tickets. Its a joke and I really don't get why Stanton at 70 has no sense of urgency to see the team win while he's still alive to see it... instead he's acting like he's got another 50 years and is worried he won't have enough money to last :lol: :lol:

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by DavidGee24 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:06 am

Vogelbomb wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:31 am
Polanco is also a switch hitter and a guy that works well with Edgar.
He was horrible after they hired Edgar. Where in the holy hell do you come up with this stuff? There must be a Fort Knox of empty beer cans around your computer station.

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Post by Pharmabro » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:10 am

To be honest I was a lot more excited about Polanco, Raley, and Garver last years vs. these three but I am not as pissed as the rest of you seem to be. I am just a bit underwhelmed and disappointed that they are wasting both prime SP, prime with a return to health BP, and some prime position players that just need the roster rounded out: Cal, Julio, and some decent supporting cast: Randy, Raley, and 10th man Moore.

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:12 am

Now that we have all pissed on the offseason moves.

World Series, here we come!

22 days before game one of Spring!

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