The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:45 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:52 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:32 pm
According to this article, Seattle is the 12th most expensive in terms of housing...in all of America. I'm actually surprised it's only 12th. Funny that all these States seem to have something in common, like a lot of Blue.

https://www.kiplinger.com/real-estate/6 ... ome-prices

1. Manhattan, New York
  • Borough population: 1,597,451
    Median household income: $101,078
    Average home price: $2,810,308
    Median home value: $1,010,800
    Premium to U.S. average: 399.7%
2. San Jose, California
  • City population: 1,945,767
    Median household income: $153,202
    Average home price: $1,923,230
    Median home value: $1,393,400
    Premium to U.S. average: 234.9%
3. Honolulu, Hawaii
  • City population: 341,753
    Median household income: $84,907
    Average home price: $1,644,173
    Median home value: $831,600
    Premium to U.S. average: 202.6%
4. Brooklyn, New York
  • Borough population: 2,561,225
    Median household income: $76,912
    Average home price: $1,395,489
    Median home value: $880,300
    Premium to U.S. average: 173.7%
5. Orange County, California
  • County population: 3,135,755
    Median household income: $110,042
    Average home price: $1,509,257
    Median home value: $961,400
    Premium to U.S. average: 166.6%
6. Queens, New York
  • Borough population: 2,252,196
    Median household income: $81,929
    Average home price: $1,323,984
    Median home value: $692,500
    Premium to U.S. average: 157.5%
7. San Francisco, California
  • City population: 1,535,341
    Median household income: $138,562
    Average home price: $1,369,694
    Median home value: $1,424,900
    Premium to U.S. average: 152%
8. Los Angeles, California
  • City population: 3,820,963
    Median household income: $79,701
    Average home price: $1,342,193
    Median home value: $919,900
    Premium to U.S. average: 133.1%
9. Boston, Massachusetts
  • City population: 652,442
    Median household income: $96,931
    Average home price: $1,070,817
    Median home value: $703,600
    Premium to U.S. average: 126.0%
10. San Diego, California
  • City population: 1,388,312
    Median household income: $105,780
    Average home price: $1,153,380
    Median home value: $923,900
    Premium to U.S. average: 113.2%
11. Washington, D.C.
  • City population: 678,972
    Median household income: $108,210
    Average home price: $1,074,929
    Median home value: $715,500
    Premium to U.S. average: 113.0%
12. Seattle, Washington
  • City population: 755,081
    Median household income: $120,608
    Average home price: $1,079,100
    Median home value: $898,600
    Premium to U.S. average: 112.0%
Orange County, where I lived for 27 years (I'm now in Los Angeles County), is about 50/50 red/blue. Honolulu's and San Diego's politics are pretty much irrelevant as they're awesome places to live.

What surprises me is how expensive Brooklyn and Queens are. Do a Zillow search on houses for sale in those two boroughs, pretty much every one of them you'd be all, no way in hell would I live in a dump like that. Not to mention the apartments you see depicted on TV and in movies, you're always expecting to see a chalk outline like in Coming To America.
Yeah, kinda an interesting list, i was surprised as well with Queens snd Brooklyn. My brother lived in both areas in the 80s-90s. Id stay there occasionally over the years. He was married with a pair of kids and those were the areas to find affordable housing in NYC back then.

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by DavidGee24 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:31 am

auroraave wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:05 am
Michael K. wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:36 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:52 pm

Orange County, where I lived for 27 years (I'm now in Los Angeles County), is about 50/50 red/blue. Honolulu's and San Diego's politics are pretty much irrelevant as they're awesome places to live.
I'm not so sure it really matters about the area, or how nice it is to live there. All those States are considered blue. No coincidence.
Orange County is not like LA county - it's a world away and is much more into law and order and "conservative" I suppose. "Non-insane-leftist" is more apt. I would be surprised if it wasn't red. No 'protests' happening in Newport Beach or Laguna. Lot's of vocal Trump supporters for sure. I've seen trump rallies all over LA - even in BH. Never seen a Harris or Biden rally - literally - ever.
Lots of red areas in Orange County, probably most prominently Huntington Beach. Areas of the Inland Empire are like that too.

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by auroraave » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:02 pm

According to ABA poll - 12% of businesses looking to leave Washington due to crushing taxes.
A full 61% of employers who intend to move out of state point to Washington’s tax burden as their main reason. In the broader survey, 52% of all respondents named the overall tax burden as the biggest challenge facing their business, and 43% said reducing taxes should be the state’s top priority to help them.
Apparently washington has a $16 BILLION dollar deficit. Wrap your mind around THAT figure. Then, ask how many billions have been lost by businesses leaving due to the rampant crime allowed during covid? The clean ups from all the nonstop rioting. All the lawsuits from the 'summer of love"? All the taxes and income generators - gone. The result? The shit-for-brains "governor' trying to add 5 new taxes. FIVE. The absolute best part? That idiot trying to blame washington's deficit on Trump. :lol: Couldn't POSSIBLY be insane policy, right? Couldn't possibly be Dem incompetence. Nah, 5 new taxes, businesses leaving in droves because "Trump."

Also, let's not forget - the Dems are the party of "vote for us and we will give you free stuff" like allllllllll the illegals getting free food, clothing, shelter, visa cards - alllllllllll that is paid for by YOU. There isn't 'someone else" the bill magically goes to it is LITERALLY you. They literally opened the border to entice illegals entering to vote for them (remember the "voter ID is racist" nonsense they peddled? lol) - and that bill is now due. You would have to be a complete idiot not to see how this works. The new taxes are a direct result of that egregious policy - combined with the insane covid/constant rioting policies - and the 'trickle down' effect is businesses leaving and even fewer jobs - resulting in another tax. Anyone not clear on the math? And the dems are blaming Trump. :lol: :lol: :lol:

"wash, rinse, repeat"

https://mynorthwest.com/jason-rantz/tax ... on/4077566

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by gil » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:00 pm

auroraave wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:02 pm
According to ABA poll - 12% of businesses looking to leave Washington due to crushing taxes.
A full 61% of employers who intend to move out of state point to Washington’s tax burden as their main reason. In the broader survey, 52% of all respondents named the overall tax burden as the biggest challenge facing their business, and 43% said reducing taxes should be the state’s top priority to help them.
Apparently washington has a $16 BILLION dollar deficit. Wrap your mind around THAT figure. Then, ask how many billions have been lost by businesses leaving due to the rampant crime allowed during covid? The clean ups from all the nonstop rioting. All the lawsuits from the 'summer of love"? All the taxes and income generators - gone. The result? The shit-for-brains "governor' trying to add 5 new taxes. FIVE. The absolute best part? That idiot trying to blame washington's deficit on Trump. :lol: Couldn't POSSIBLY be insane policy, right? Couldn't possibly be Dem incompetence. Nah, 5 new taxes, businesses leaving in droves because "Trump."

Also, let's not forget - the Dems are the party of "vote for us and we will give you free stuff" like allllllllll the illegals getting free food, clothing, shelter, visa cards - alllllllllll that is paid for by YOU. There isn't 'someone else" the bill magically goes to it is LITERALLY you. They literally opened the border to entice illegals entering to vote for them (remember the "voter ID is racist" nonsense they peddled? lol) - and that bill is now due. You would have to be a complete idiot not to see how this works. The new taxes are a direct result of that egregious policy - combined with the insane covid/constant rioting policies - and the 'trickle down' effect is businesses leaving and even fewer jobs - resulting in another tax. Anyone not clear on the math? And the dems are blaming Trump. :lol: :lol: :lol:

"wash, rinse, repeat"

https://mynorthwest.com/jason-rantz/tax ... on/4077566
I don't follow the state budget that closely but the deficit seems driven more by spending having increased almost 40% in 4 years. There has been no decline in revenues. We need a stronger, more reasonable Republican Party in Washington to be part of a solution.

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:23 pm

sure because republicans are so fiscally responsible, you familiar with the spending bill Trump just rammed through congress

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by gil » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:12 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:23 pm
sure because republicans are so fiscally responsible, you familiar with the spending bill Trump just rammed through congress
I noticed. Get rid of the debt limit after fighting tooth and nail against ANY increase in the debt limit when Dems are in power. Can we say "principled"? :roll:

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by gil » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:13 pm

And I did say "more reasonable" Republican Party. Not the majority of today's republicans in Congress.

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