Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by douche » Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:58 pm

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After watching video of Bradford any reasonable person would have to conclude that he had no grasp of the playcalls or understanding of what his teammates were doing OR he must be utterly lacking in the physical tools to play the position.
One could be inclined to believe that a tackling dummy would have performed no worse.

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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:50 am

He's an amazingly veratile player with the ability to be both a turnstyle and a doormat.

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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by Bil522 » Thu Nov 06, 2025 1:30 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 8:59 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:43 pm
I don't understand the argument that there just weren't any decent guards out there that they could have acquired. Why would there be decent receivers and decent cornerbacks and decent defensive tackles and decent linebackers and decent edge rushers available but not decent OGs? Makes no sense.

To the argument that there could be issues with a new OL getting up to speed with the playbook and developing rapport with fellow linemen i would just say this. After watching video of Bradford any reasonable person would have to conclude that he had no grasp of the playcalls or understanding of what his teammates were doing OR he must be utterly lacking in the physical tools to play the position.
Good points.
But if he is a tackling dummy, wouldn't opposing defenses just run through him to the quarterback? They aren't, so maybe they have figured out how to mitigate Bradford's ineptness and are at least willing to go that route over bringing in whatever warm body the trading deadline would have brought.

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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 06, 2025 1:48 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:50 am
He's an amazingly veratile player with the ability to be both a turnstyle and a doormat.
He is a decent blocker if the guy his is blocking is wearing the same uniform as him.
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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 06, 2025 1:50 am

I did notice that all his gaffes seemed to come on running plays during the X videos.
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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by 57reasons » Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:07 am

auroraave wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:02 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:37 pm
Great looks like we're stuck with Bradford/Haynes at RG the rest of the way. :roll:
No teams are trading away top lineman. It rarely happens. If you don't think JS has tried, that's on you. He's not going to overpay just for the sake of doing it. What major olineman trades have happened recently? it might be the most sought after position right now. No one's giving those players up, except at ultra premium prices - they are too hard to find - for ALL teams.
Laremy Tunsil, but cant think of many others.

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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by 57reasons » Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:21 am

Michael K. wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:05 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:43 pm
I don't understand the argument that there just weren't any decent guards out there that they could have acquired. Why would there be decent receivers and decent cornerbacks and decent defensive tackles and decent linebackers and decent edge rushers available but not decent OGs? Makes no sense.

To the argument that there could be issues with a new OL getting up to speed with the playbook and developing rapport with fellow linemen i would just say this. After watching video of Bradford any reasonable person would have to conclude that he had no grasp of the playcalls or understanding of what his teammates were doing OR he must be utterly lacking in the physical tools to play the position.
Short answer is those guys are harder to come by. Longer answer would be, as we have said, there may have been guys available, but at what cost? Again, they are 6 and 2 and have the fifth ranked Offense and the fifth ranked Defense, from what I heard on the Brock and Salk Show this week. Do you want to completely mortgage the future for a potential short term upgrade at Guard? It's like freaking out at the trade deadline because we didn't add a long reliever and someone to bat 9th. The line has been pretty solid, in all fairness. I'm not sure anyone in the League has a line where they couldn't upgrade at at least one of the positions. But, again, at what cost, and how much of an upgrade?
The other reason I think is that, contrary to casual fans who fawn over the so-called "skill" positions, OL are more highly valued by NFL teams than players at all other positions excepting QB, precisely because it's all about the QB and keeping him protected. I would have liked to have brought in a Seitzer or Teller, but both of their teams have young QBs that they value and want to keep protected for the future, or in the Browns case, they need to see if they have anything in either of their two rookies before next year's draft comes.

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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:52 am

“The statement, I guess, is really not a level of importance; it’s truly important. It’s highly valued. But we still, to this day, because of the dearth of talent at the position, will overpay at that position and will overdraft at that position,” Schneider said. “We’ve been guilty of it, and we probably will be guilty of it in the future as well. It’s just based on a level of talent.

“The philosophy is not ‘we’re not going to overpay’ — we probably will because we have to. But you have to be smart with those decisions.”
JS clarifying his opinion of guards. I think we are looking at this thing backwards. Looking at Bradford as an obligation to find a replacement. I think he's more a gift from God. When JS goes to bed at night he isn't mulling over replacements, he's saying his prayers thankful he doesn't have to bother with it. For as bad as Bradford may be, and it could be he really is not that bad I don't see it negatively impacting the offense.

It is a curious thing, why are things working so well if Bradford is so bad? It just begs the question doesn't it? Before with Pete the questions were more negative. How can this defense be so bad, what happened? Today at least the questions seem more positive.

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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 06, 2025 7:05 am

This sure seems like good news to me

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Mike Macdonald on Ernest: “I’m not going to measure how good the news is. He’s working through it. He’s going to be part of our walkthrough. We’ll see how much he does in the actual ACT (practice). I’m sure he’ll be listed limited in some capacity today.”
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Re: Breaking: Hawks trade for a WR

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 06, 2025 9:20 am

The seahawks could be in line for a compensatory pick up they don't resign Rasheed, they could get one of the picks they traded back

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