Emerson and the roster

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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by Pharmabro » Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:49 am

D-train wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:06 pm
bpj wrote:
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D-train wrote:
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JK kicking ass in Charlotte! :lol:

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May I suggest.. time?

Lol. I'm even getting tired of that joke.

I hope we hear what the extension offer he turned down was someday.
I have gone with this one for way too many times but I think it is one of my greatest works of art.

Evan White takes his wife out to Applebee's in about a year and a half. Kelenic is their waiter.

At the end of the meal White says. Hey great service, here is $50 for that but the second tip I have for you is you should have taken the extension offer. lol
FFS :D THAT WAS FN FUNNY!

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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by Pharmabro » Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:00 am

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Passan on Emersons extension



“I think Colt Emerson’s a better bet, because if you look at what his skills are, there’s a lot less variance in those than a guy like Jarred Kelenic, for example,” Passan said. “Like, let’s look at Colt Emerson’s numbers in the minor leagues. And listen, I understand minor league numbers do not always translate to the big leagues, but I’m looking especially this past season, when at 19 years old he went from High-A essentially up to Triple-A.

Bat to ball really matters, and swing decisions really matter. … The numbers, to me, that stand out the most – it’s not the batting average. It’s not even the on-base percentage, which is really good. It’s not the slug, it’s not the defensive positions he plays, it’s not the home runs, the RBIs, the stolen bases, any of that. It’s the walks and the strikeouts. In 600 plate appearances, he struck out 105 times, which would make him in the top 20th percentile if he can carry that over in the big leagues right now. And he walked 71 times, which would probably be the top 10 percentile.

If you can lock in a franchise shortstop who makes good swing decisions, has good bat-to-ball skills, has some power, you do that eight days a week,” he added. “And I understand the price was hefty, but there’s so much money to be made in terms of marginal value on this contract that the Mariners’ front office, they’re smart people and they get the math.

“And the math in this case was good enough for them to lay out essentially $100 million for a guy who’s never had a single day of big league service.
But guys in MLB do have better stuff, command and control, and they frigging find those holes in the swing that MILB pitchers don’t have the data or the tools to exploit.

Those are some good walk vs K rates. So good point. But why are they committing to bring him up this year? And for a significant roll. Young deserves to play everyday. Donavan Check. JP is coming off a 111 OPS+ year? Who sits? They are all lefties so it is not like there is a good fit for a platoon for any of them. DH has Canzone, Cal, REF. Raley has looked great this year and again he is a Lefty who does benefit by having a platoon partner but that is not Colt. Idon’t see it benefitting the 2026 squad to bring him up without an injury.

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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:32 am

It's not really about benefiting this season. That's the thing, I don't see a reason to get particularly excited about it or on the other hand, upset. The contract doesn't impact this seasons budget. It doesn't kick in until 2028. This is about the future

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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by Bil522 » Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:54 pm

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So, here is where Jerry the Dip really screwed up the organization yet again. If you sign a prospect to a long term extension prior to him making his ML debut, that player/team becomes ineligible for the Prospect Promotion Incentive draft pick, which comes at the end of the first round before the competition picks. Why not wait until Colt makes his debut and then sign him to a contract? Because Jerry and Justin are idiots.
It is not only with the ROY,you get If you get top 3 in MVP/Cy Young voting in their first 3 years. Cal was a year off from getting a draft pick last year.

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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by D-train » Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:43 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
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D-train wrote:
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Because they are trying to get the deal closed. It's always about closing the deal. You wait until he's proved himself then it's a whole new deal
He wouldn't get much more with a few good months in the PCL but he wouldn't now have to be forced onto a full roster...
You put a deal together, if you are going to say well let's wait until August and see how you do in AAA then there's no deal to begin with. That's all I can say, it's all about closing the deal
Yeah I am fine doing the deal now. You are paying him the same regardless of where he is playing and it is probably only a mil or two in savings. Just don't get keep saying he is almost ready and coming up shortly. Just let it happen.
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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by D-train » Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:57 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:00 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:23 pm
Passan on Emersons extension



“I think Colt Emerson’s a better bet, because if you look at what his skills are, there’s a lot less variance in those than a guy like Jarred Kelenic, for example,” Passan said. “Like, let’s look at Colt Emerson’s numbers in the minor leagues. And listen, I understand minor league numbers do not always translate to the big leagues, but I’m looking especially this past season, when at 19 years old he went from High-A essentially up to Triple-A.

Bat to ball really matters, and swing decisions really matter. … The numbers, to me, that stand out the most – it’s not the batting average. It’s not even the on-base percentage, which is really good. It’s not the slug, it’s not the defensive positions he plays, it’s not the home runs, the RBIs, the stolen bases, any of that. It’s the walks and the strikeouts. In 600 plate appearances, he struck out 105 times, which would make him in the top 20th percentile if he can carry that over in the big leagues right now. And he walked 71 times, which would probably be the top 10 percentile.

If you can lock in a franchise shortstop who makes good swing decisions, has good bat-to-ball skills, has some power, you do that eight days a week,” he added. “And I understand the price was hefty, but there’s so much money to be made in terms of marginal value on this contract that the Mariners’ front office, they’re smart people and they get the math.

“And the math in this case was good enough for them to lay out essentially $100 million for a guy who’s never had a single day of big league service.
But guys in MLB do have better stuff, command and control, and they frigging find those holes in the swing that MILB pitchers don’t have the data or the tools to exploit.

Those are some good walk vs K rates. So good point. But why are they committing to bring him up this year? And for a significant roll. Young deserves to play everyday. Donavan Check. JP is coming off a 111 OPS+ year? Who sits? They are all lefties so it is not like there is a good fit for a platoon for any of them. DH has Canzone, Cal, REF. Raley has looked great this year and again he is a Lefty who does benefit by having a platoon partner but that is not Colt. Idon’t see it benefitting the 2026 squad to bring him up without an injury.
Exactly!! and suddenly that walk/K rate is 2/17 which is 4%/30%+ in the PCL. Patrick Wisdom had the same BA and a OBP that was 40 points higher. That is scary even considering the SSS.
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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by D-train » Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:59 pm

Bil522 wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:54 pm
Bil522 wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2026 2:54 pm
So, here is where Jerry the Dip really screwed up the organization yet again. If you sign a prospect to a long term extension prior to him making his ML debut, that player/team becomes ineligible for the Prospect Promotion Incentive draft pick, which comes at the end of the first round before the competition picks. Why not wait until Colt makes his debut and then sign him to a contract? Because Jerry and Justin are idiots.
It is not only with the ROY,you get If you get top 3 in MVP/Cy Young voting in their first 3 years. Cal was a year off from getting a draft pick last year.
I did not know that. Thanks.
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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by D-train » Wed Apr 15, 2026 5:41 pm

Kevin McGonnigle who has a .908 OPS for the Tigers and is the #1 prospect signed a $150M deal and the Colt hypesters are saying Colts deal is a bargain because it is "only" $95M. :lol: :roll:
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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by bpj » Wed Apr 15, 2026 6:34 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:32 am
It's not really about benefiting this season. That's the thing, I don't see a reason to get particularly excited about it or on the other hand, upset. The contract doesn't impact this seasons budget. It doesn't kick in until 2028. This is about the future
Of course it's about the future. So was the Evan White contract. And the Jarhead Kelenic offer. Doesn't make it a good idea or any sort of win.

Dipoto has a massive list of wasted dollars over the past 10 years. Won't surprise me at all when Emerson's a slick fielding .660 OPS shortstop and we're stuck paying him for the next 10 years.

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Re: Emerson and the roster

Post by D-train » Wed Apr 15, 2026 8:20 pm

And my sense was that Colts was expected to move off shortstop but he is looking to be a above average shortstop by no means Elite
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