Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by Donn Beach » Tue May 19, 2026 11:22 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 4:46 am
I just think at this point the most important thing is to get Cal back and hitting bombs again. But I know obliques are tricky so it could be a while.
yeah, they are missing Cal and Polanco's super human first quarter last season. I'm thinking a lot of it is coming down to how ineffective the lineup is currently against lefties. They are missing their two biggest bats from last season at this point. Both of them with right handed pop. Playing Refsnyder is driving everybody crazy but I think the deal is a team this ineffective against left handed pitching even if you make the playoffs you probably aren't getting very far. You're stuck trying to get Refsnyder started as your solution.

One can complain it's about the $6 mil they gave him. I'd say it's because they are desperate for any kind of solution, Refsnyder is it at this point. They really are bad

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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by D-train » Tue May 19, 2026 11:56 am

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 6:09 am
Could always use better bats off the bench. At some point it'll sink in that the Asian senasation of Refs & Joe just aren't cutting it. Once Robles comes back that'll send Asian Joe back where he belongs. At least he provides better defense. BTW anybody know the status of his injury, just curious. Curious why Davis bat isn't up here. Depends on who's out of it by the end of June so we still have a littlr ways to go.
24 seasons with a Japanese player on the roster and then Jerry bans them and then finally decides to roll with a Chinese guy with the last name of Joe and a half Korean with the last name of Refsnyder. Meanwhile the two Japanese hitters they could have signed are both raking. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Murakami .934
Okamoto .767
Joe .660
Refsnyder .405
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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by AlvinDavisFan21 » Tue May 19, 2026 1:12 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Mon May 18, 2026 6:34 pm
This is an unserious team led by unserious people. The White Sox, and to a lesser extent the A's had a 2 year rebuild and they are suddenly teams that aren't being written off. The Sox are a game behind the Guardians and the AL Central, and the A's sit on top of the AL West.

Here is the best possible trade deadline plan I can think of:

Trade every offensive player except Young and Donovan. Seriously. Clean house. We need a marquee player in CF who leads the team - not one who giggle-shits his way back to the dugout after striking out (usually for the third time in a game). Everyone else except Raleigh is trade bait. Literally.

Demote Raleigh to the Inland Empire 66ers until he figures his swing out again. Keep him there till he mashes dingers twice a game and gets his confidence back. This strategic "oblique strain" IL bullshit is not going to fix his head.

Keep our starting rotation - except for Castillo. Trade him for a bag of peanuts and a box of Jay Buhner limited edition, collector issued bobbleheads.

Spin the bottle with a list of names available for bullpen arms. Literally throwing darts with a blindfold at a list of names could create a more competent bunch of assholes whose only job is not to allow runs for 3 to 6 batters. Every 3 days.

Kick Dan Wilson to the curb and clean out his office. Hire Alex Cora. I understand he's dusted off his CV and is back on LinkedIn.

Hire Chris Getz away from the White Sox. Following the dismissals of previous executives Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn in 2023, Getz took full control of the franchise's baseball operations. He has overseen a massive organizational overhaul, completely restructuring the team's international scouting, farm system, and player development strategies. This dude knows his shit. Diptoto couldn't find his own asshole in a humid broom closet. With a mirror on a stick.

I am not shitting you. I can not watch this pathetic offense bumblefuck its way through another game. Things have got to change, from the top down.
Well said Big Maple. Some valid points there. That absolutely drives me nuts when Julio strikes out for the 3rd time and then giggles on the way back to the dugout. I don't think any of the die hard fans that have stuck with this team for decades find any humor in that.

I agree with keeping Cal, Young, and Donovan. Although until Donovan can prove he can stay healthy I may throw him in that category as well. Everyone else is fair game.

I am not sure on the Alex Cora hiring. I like Dan as a person, but as a manager he leaves a lot to be desired.

Chris Getz has done a fine job in Chicago. Seems like he is going about the rebuild the right way.

Either way, I hope they get it figured out. I would like to see a Mariners World Series sometime in my life (I am over 50) and the way this roster is built unfortunately I don't see it happening anytime soon.

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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by Big_Maple » Tue May 19, 2026 2:33 pm

AlvinDavisFan21 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 1:12 pm
Well said Big Maple. Some valid points there. That absolutely drives me nuts when Julio strikes out for the 3rd time and then giggles on the way back to the dugout. I don't think any of the die hard fans that have stuck with this team for decades find any humor in that.

I agree with keeping Cal, Young, and Donovan. Although until Donovan can prove he can stay healthy I may throw him in that category as well. Everyone else is fair game.

I am not sure on the Alex Cora hiring. I like Dan as a person, but as a manager he leaves a lot to be desired.

Chris Getz has done a fine job in Chicago. Seems like he is going about the rebuild the right way.

Either way, I hope they get it figured out. I would like to see a Mariners World Series sometime in my life (I am over 50) and the way this roster is built unfortunately I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Most of what I said was tongue in cheek. I don't expect nor do I embrace a full rebuild. Tearing it down to the studs will never happen - we are just coming out the other side of a major rebuild.

My point was mainly that Dipoto et al. were given a lot of latitude and nearly a decade to rebuild this team, and they wound up a dollar short and a day late. Yeah, there are a few bright spots: we do seem to do well with starting pitcher development. We did pick and groom the best catcher in the game. And Julio - if he could ever get his head out of his ass, grow up, and start actually leading by example, could be a mega star.

I am excited about Young and Emerson, and our middle infield could be amazing in a year or two.

But here's the thing: our window is nearly closed. The Astros have finally collapsed, but the A's rebuilt in 2 or 3 years, and they look like a serious team if they can get a few good starters. Many of our starters will be headed to free agency in a few years, and they aren't going to have any sense of loyalty to a team that consistently fails to give them run support. The rest of the roster is utter codswhallop. LF, RF, bullpen, 3B and DH are all gaping holes you could drive a truck through.

So yeah - a 10 year rebuild that nets a half-baked roster, a marginally competent manager, and ownership that refuses to pony up some serious money to land a few superstars to take us to the promised land...? Our window closes while the A's and the Angels start to surge again.

The best - the very, very best thing that could happen to this team is if the owners sell the team to some Seattle billionaire who decides to buy the team a world series. But that's a hail mary.

Hope springs eternal.

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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by Michael K. » Tue May 19, 2026 4:50 pm

Once Donovan sits tomorrow? He'll have missed half the games this team has played. This is not a new thing either.

118 games last year
95 games two years before that
126 games in 2022

Only in 2024 did he play over 150 games.

From 2022 to today he has played in 517 of his teams 698 games. That is an average of 120 games a year. Fuck him. His ability is fine, but his availability is dogshit. Trade his ass too. But you are all missing the boat. We can trade the entire roster, we will be right back here again with Dipoto running the show and this horseshit ownership group. Fucking sucks that the Seahawks are the team being forced to sell.

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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by D-train » Tue May 19, 2026 5:08 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 4:50 pm
Once Donovan sits tomorrow? He'll have missed half the games this team has played. This is not a new thing either.

118 games last year
95 games two years before that
126 games in 2022

Only in 2024 did he play over 150 games.

From 2022 to today he has played in 517 of his teams 698 games. That is an average of 120 games a year. Fuck him. His ability is fine, but his availability is dogshit. Trade his ass too. But you are all missing the boat. We can trade the entire roster, we will be right back here again with Dipoto running the show and this horseshit ownership group. Fucking sucks that the Seahawks are the team being forced to sell.
AND the Seahawks have the salary cap.....
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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by Big_Maple » Tue May 19, 2026 5:15 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 4:50 pm
Once Donovan sits tomorrow? He'll have missed half the games this team has played. This is not a new thing either.
Well, as for tomorrow, I heard that Donovan is unavailable because the Mariners strength and conditioning staff apparently consists of a scented candle, a theragun with no battery, and a guy named Kyle who says things like “your hamstrings are holding onto trauma.”

But his overall pattern of truancy maybe because his body reacts to the MLB schedule like a Victorian child being sent into a coal mine.

Either that or he treats the Injured List like it’s a Marriott rewards program and he’s trying to hit platinum status before September.

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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by D-train » Tue May 19, 2026 5:58 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 5:15 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 4:50 pm
Once Donovan sits tomorrow? He'll have missed half the games this team has played. This is not a new thing either.
Well, as for tomorrow, I heard that Donovan is unavailable because the Mariners strength and conditioning staff apparently consists of a scented candle, a theragun with no battery, and a guy named Kyle who says things like “your hamstrings are holding onto trauma.”

But his overall pattern of truancy maybe because his body reacts to the MLB schedule like a Victorian child being sent into a coal mine.

Either that or he treats the Injured List like it’s a Marriott rewards program and he’s trying to hit platinum status before September.
And the Victorian Child has Hemophilia and Nyctophobia
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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by Big_Maple » Tue May 19, 2026 6:08 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue May 19, 2026 5:58 pm

And the Victorian Child has Hemophilia and Nyctophobia
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A nyctophobic coal miner is just about the funniest damn thing I have ever heard!!

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Re: Trade deadline will be a buzz kill this season

Post by Donn Beach » Wed May 20, 2026 3:25 pm

Callis seems to think they could be active at the deadline
While Callis has a hard time seeing the Mariners trading Anderson or Sloan, he wouldn’t be surprised to see any of the prospects after them being dealt. That includes fellow MLB Pipeline top 100 members outfielder Lazaro Montes, second baseman/outfielder Michael Arroyo and outfielder Johnny Farmelo. It also includes names like shortstop Felnin Celesten, catcher Luke Stevenson, outfielder Yorger Bautista and shortstop Nick Becker
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