I drew the short straw. Castillo. Sacramento. Civale: 5-1. This is my Memorial Day 5/25 GT

[D-train]

Let's even throw in Ref to seal the deal! lol

https://sodomojo.com/latest-red-sox-tra ... er-problem

[D-train]

Terms of Crawford, he's continuing to work at 3rd. The move would still be in the future

Crawford is continuing to see work at third base before games. He could see a start at the hot corner next week

What a joke. Amazing that a 20 yo rookie that played SS almost exclusively in AAA can suddenly move to 3B no problem but a 30 yo vet needs training wheels and weeks to learn the position to see if he can suck a little less at it than he does SS....

[XpertDBA]

Terms of Crawford, he's continuing to work at 3rd. The move would still be in the future

Crawford is continuing to see work at third base before games. He could see a start at the hot corner next week

What a joke. Amazing that a 20 yo rookie that played SS almost exclusively in AAA can suddenly move to 3B no problem but a 30 yo vet needs training wheels and weeks to learn the position to see if he can suck a little less at it than he does SS....

Whats the logic of having a guy that can hardly throw from SS to 1B move to a position that requires an even longer throw? I don't get this organization.

[D-train]

No idea where it came from but that is a common misconception. SSs play WAY deeper than 3Bs so have longer throws on average:

While both positions demand strong arms across a regulation 90-foot diamond, a shortstop's throw to first base averages roughly 85 to 130 feet. When fielding "in the hole" (deep toward the third-base line), shortstops are often throwing from the edge of the outfield grass, making it the longest, most challenging throw in the infield.

But yeah I don't see JP playing 3B helping him much other than it requires less range.

[Peepaw]

Let's even throw in Ref to seal the deal! lol

https://sodomojo.com/latest-red-sox-tra ... er-problem

Wow! Yes, toss him in and his 6.25 mil. M's could own Abreau for a long time. Maybe the Sox can be tempted.

[rockycola]

This whole idea of piggybacking is stupid. Why not just have Miller take on a role like Cleveland had a few years back where they used Andrew Miller (I think that's the guy) as an actual fireman type reliever who came in and pitched multiple innings.
But the Jerry way is to piss off multiple players and then trade off Castillo for peanuts just in time for a couple starters to go on the IL. Because Mariners...

Man, I hear that! Pitching changed while I wasn't really looking at baseball or any sports. Wins and such don't really matter anymore. WINNING matters. Teams throw bullpen games now. I'm all for playing the game to WIN. So I can't disagree with the PB strategy in light of that. But it's hard for the two pitchers. I understand that. I was once that young and idealistic (still am). It's hard to see past your own gig. And when things are changing, harder still.

I throw this out there as fodder - is baseball becoming like soccer? More impersonal and socialistic? No heroes, just parochialism?

Back when I was coaching Little League, my ace pitcher was my son. As a 12 year old in what is call LL Majors, he didn't have the velocity of some of the "elite", but he truly did understand pitching as opposed to just throwing hard. He was a master at changing speeds, hitting spots, setting up batters and studying their tendencies (weight shifts, extension, what pitches could counteract their abilities and weaknesses).
He threw a lot of 1 & 2 hit games and a perfect game.
Remember, LL is 6 innings.
Anyway, LL has all sorts of age-pitch count restrictions, appearances in a week, rest, etc. We had a busy upcoming schedule, a rainout to make up. I planned a game where my ace would pitch 3-innings with a pitch count limit, then my next best pitcher would do the next 3 so both could pitch over the weekend.
Bottomline, he finished his 3 innings, a perfecto so far. This was a week after his perfect game. I followed my "piggyback" plan, pulled him, put in my next pitcher. We won, the other team got a couple of hits and a run. 24 YEARS LATER, HE HAS NOT FORGIVEN ME YET . But we're cool.
As much as I've lost trust in Castillo, I totally understand and agree with his frustration. Sounds like Bryce isn't happy with it either. I'm in agreement with him, also. There's no "I" in T.E.A.M., yet there is "I" in Insult, Insufferable, Insidious, Idiocy and that's how the ego responds, no matter how much preaching about team and sacrifice for the "greater good" is done. Pats on the back and a participation trophy won't placate them.

[Peepaw]

This whole idea of piggybacking is stupid. Why not just have Miller take on a role like Cleveland had a few years back where they used Andrew Miller (I think that's the guy) as an actual fireman type reliever who came in and pitched multiple innings.
But the Jerry way is to piss off multiple players and then trade off Castillo for peanuts just in time for a couple starters to go on the IL. Because Mariners...

Man, I hear that! Pitching changed while I wasn't really looking at baseball or any sports. Wins and such don't really matter anymore. WINNING matters. Teams throw bullpen games now. I'm all for playing the game to WIN. So I can't disagree with the PB strategy in light of that. But it's hard for the two pitchers. I understand that. I was once that young and idealistic (still am). It's hard to see past your own gig. And when things are changing, harder still.

I throw this out there as fodder - is baseball becoming like soccer? More impersonal and socialistic? No heroes, just parochialism?

Back when I was coaching Little League, my ace pitcher was my son. As a 12 year old in what is call LL Majors, he didn't have the velocity of some of the "elite", but he truly did understand pitching as opposed to just throwing hard. He was a master at changing speeds, hitting spots, setting up batters and studying their tendencies (weight shifts, extension, what pitches could counteract their abilities and weaknesses).
He threw a lot of 1 & 2 hit games and a perfect game.
Remember, LL is 6 innings.
Anyway, LL has all sorts of age-pitch count restrictions, appearances in a week, rest, etc. We had a busy upcoming schedule, a rainout to make up. I planned a game where my ace would pitch 3-innings with a pitch count limit, then my next best pitcher would do the next 3 so both could pitch over the weekend.
Bottomline, he finished his 3 innings, a perfecto so far. This was a week after his perfect game. I followed my "piggyback" plan, pulled him, put in my next pitcher. We won, the other team got a couple of hits and a run. 24 YEARS LATER, HE HAS NOT FORGIVEN ME YET . But we're cool.
As much as I've lost trust in Castillo, I totally understand and agree with his frustration. Sounds like Bryce isn't happy with it either. I'm in agreement with him, also. There's no "I" in T.E.A.M., yet there is "I" in Insult, Insufferable, Insidious, Idiocy and that's how the ego responds, no matter how much preaching about team and sacrifice for the "greater good" is done. Pats on the back and a participation trophy won't placate them.

Good story. So true. People are gonna get their nose bent. When it's you, life sucks. In Baseball, there's no crying. Look what the Angels did to Albert - dropped him off downtown. Fortunately the Dodger bus happened by, but it's a brutal business.

[Hy Feiber]

Piggyback worked perfect tonight. Gonna stick with this until Castillo gets traded or someone gets hurt.

It's an asinine concept. Why would you pull a starter throwing a shutout at 68 pitches so that you can burn another (better) starter in the remaining 5 innings? Were they trying to appease Miller? If so that just indicates (along with Castillo's reaction to being pulled) that neither pitcher is on-board with sharing a start.

Any decision like this that needlessly damages team morale, is a bonehead move, especially when the starter is dealing with a big lead.

It’s hard to imagine how anyone could stand up for this strange organization.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

The whole thing is so ridiculous. What has Castillo done to warrant getting even a share of a starting role this season? How about showing up for the beginning of the season ready to go and not taking 2 months to start pitching up to your ability you stupid, lazy POS? He should be in the bullpen but apparently they're too scared of how he might react to do it.

[XpertDBA]

No idea where it came from but that is a common misconception. SSs play WAY deeper than 3Bs so have longer throws on average:

While both positions demand strong arms across a regulation 90-foot diamond, a shortstop's throw to first base averages roughly 85 to 130 feet. When fielding "in the hole" (deep toward the third-base line), shortstops are often throwing from the edge of the outfield grass, making it the longest, most challenging throw in the infield.

But yeah I don't see JP playing 3B helping him much other than it requires less range.

Ok, I was wrong about the length of the throw. But doesn't the 3rd baseman have a more awkward body angle and frequently throwing while charging or barehanding balls? I don't see that as being a strength of JPs.