Jude on the Naylor situation

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Post by Donn Beach » Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:00 pm

The mariners aren't the Rockies or the Angels, but they aren't the Braves or the Brewers either. They're somewhere in between. He can say what he wants but like i said before, I think the goal is more like being over. 500 for a decade. It really is kind of interesting how mediocre baseball generally is. Play 162 games and being ten games over. 500 is an accomplishment

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Post by D-train » Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:36 pm

Missing the Playoffs is never an accomplishment
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Post by D-train » Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:40 pm

It doesn't matter if it's for a season or a decade. The point is he's never going for it he's never trying to win 60% of his games which would guarantee you a playoff spot. That's the sustainability. He thinks if he goes for 60%, he's bound to eventually have a terrible year or two or three. And that ruins the sustainability algorithm.
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Post by D-train » Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:41 pm

The irony is that with his strategy which he thought was so brilliant they only won 46% this season and failed miserably at his stated goal of sustainability.
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Post by D-train » Tue Oct 06, 2026 12:52 am

Is firing your entire coaching staff a part of the sustainability model???
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Post by GL_Storm » Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:30 am

D-train wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 06, 2026 12:52 am
Is firing your entire coaching staff a part of the sustainability model???
It doesn't seem like those coaches were able to do anything for Julio though. I know he has his own hitting coach, the same guy that a lot of the big name Latin players use. I wonder if that's helpful or not.

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Re: Jude on the Naylor situation

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:43 am

GL_Storm wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:30 am
D-train wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 06, 2026 12:52 am
Is firing your entire coaching staff a part of the sustainability model???
It doesn't seem like those coaches were able to do anything for Julio though. I know he has his own hitting coach, the same guy that a lot of the big name Latin players use. I wonder if that's helpful or not.
What do you think?

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Re: Jude on the Naylor situation

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:55 am

D-train wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:40 pm
It doesn't matter if it's for a season or a decade. The point is he's never going for it he's never trying to win 60% of his games which would guarantee you a playoff spot. That's the sustainability. He thinks if he goes for 60%, he's bound to eventually have a terrible year or two or three. And that ruins the sustainability algorithm.
The comment wasn't about trying to win a certain percentage of their games.
one year, you’re going to win 60 percent, another year you’re going to win 50 percent. It’s whatever it is.

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Re: Jude on the Naylor situation

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:57 am

Here is a good example of Sustainability and 54% vs. taking a risk and going for it that had nothing to do with money.

Signed Naylor to 5 x 18.5M vs. Murakami for 2 x $17M

Going to pay Naylor almost 3x more but thought he was the safer bet because he had MLB success albeit with a low ceiling.

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Murakami 2.3

Naylor -0.2
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Re: Jude on the Naylor situation

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:59 am

Both Naylor and Cal having surgeries

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