OT- Riots, who is responsible?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

it doesn't shed doubt on anything, what it does is confirm that blacks are indeed pulled over more often than whites based on color, something that they have complained about but hadn't been acknowledged. You seem to not be willing to admit that its true but that blacks complain about it more than they should, which makes no sense to me

I do admit that it's true, but not that it is the only, or even necessarily the biggest, determinent in the observed disparity.

The study's authors acknowledged that basing this disparity on bias is hard to do in a statistically significant way, so they also analyzed the data using what they called the "veil of darkness" test. Essentially, they looked at the racial breakdown of only the traffic stops made after dark, when the race of a motorist is harder to discern.

Even when applied to different subsets of data, the results "[showed] a marked drop in the proportion of drivers stopped after dusk who are black, suggestive of discrimination in stop decisions."

Since the article didn't say how large that drop was it's impossible to determine how much it played a role in the overall disparity.

What i am saying is that even if racial bias accounted for the entire disparity, it is not close to being big enough to justify sweeping statements about our police forces with regard to racial attitudes. Based on the anecdotes one would think the disparity was 200% rather than 20% and insofar as they are the product of exaggeration and outright lying they are extremely irresponsible and destructive.

[Donn Beach]

that is a total strawman, so how much discrimination does there need to for someone to have the right to complain about it?

What i am saying is that even if racial bias accounted for the entire disparity, it is not close to being big enough to justify sweeping statements about our police forces with regard to racial attitudes. Based on the anecdotes one would think the disparity was 200% rather than 20% and insofar as they are the product of exaggeration and outright lying they are extremely irresponsible and destructive.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I said that sweeping statements about cops were not justified, and i never said blacks shouldn't have the right to complain. Talk about a strawman.

[Michael K.]

So here is the question that no one can answer well.....what is a "win" for the protesters?

IMO, a win would be that it remained peaceful. That would show some unity. But, that just can’t happen. Whether it is ANTIFA or people just looking for an excuse to do bad shit, it just can’t stay peaceful. Not to mention, there could be twice as many peaceful as violent, and the media wouldn’t portray it that way.

The majority of "protesters" don't want peace. Quite the opposite.

I think you are mistaking protesters with rioters.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I am including the looters, rioters, arsonists, and vandals who self-identify as protesters.

[bpj]

Protesters in my town tonight trying to burn our giant flag.

Not tuhhhdaaay, bitches!!

[Moe Gibbs]

I heard that several armed citizens of Snohomish showed up to talk politics, keep each other company, maybe even wave at truck loads of Anarchists who failed to set foot on Snohomish City streets yesterday. Several concerned citizens had the trusty AR-15 type rifle. Looks like ANTIFA will find easier property to shit all over and destroy at one of those GUN FREE TOWNS THAT LIBERALS FEEL SO MUCH SAFER LIVING IN..!!

[DavidGee24]

So here is the question that no one can answer well.....what is a "win" for the protesters?

IMO, a win would be that it remained peaceful. That would show some unity. But, that just can’t happen. Whether it is ANTIFA or people just looking for an excuse to do bad shit, it just can’t stay peaceful. Not to mention, there could be twice as many peaceful as violent, and the media wouldn’t portray it that way.

I don’t think there can be a win, to be honest.

Not to mention there are no doubt more than a few protesters who mean well but go out there stupid and angry and then just get stupider and angrier as everyone gets worked up. Eventually they separate themselves from civility and go from carrying a sign and chanting to screaming eff-bombs and throwing rocks. The women who are like this are especially scary because nobody on either side is going to talk them down.

[D-train]

I'm my mind, it is pretty simple. It is without a doubt good vs. evil and it is very easy the differentiate between the two groups.

The former are peaceful and respectful and the latter initiate violence, destruction and disrespect which is never acceptable under any circumstances even if their twisted, hypocritical pea brains somehow feel it is justified.

[Moe Gibbs]

Every Activist and Politician has the same message and it goes something like this... "Unarmed Blacks are killed everyday in the USA by the police". How many lies can you pick out of that statement..? If this statement is true it means that 2 or more Blacks are killed by police everyday and without fail. That statement adds up to a minimum of 730 killed unjustly by police, which would be an absolute epidemic. That number would make many people understandably mad enough to raise Hell. Ask the typical Demonstrator if he or she thinks the number of Blacks killed [like Loyd was] is closer to 9, or closer to 730 per year. I'll bet 730 is the number that most of those Mass Media Brainwashed Sheep go with.
This Globalist Agenda serving "War On Cops" is based on lies. 9 is actually a very low number when you consider 365 million man hours are turned in by our LEOs every year.