Mariners to sign James Paxton

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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by harmony » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:41 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:15 pm
Petert wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:12 pm
D-train wrote:
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I know that in general lefty starters are preferred but what is the downside of having too many. Or is there a downside?
Probably shorter LF ballparks like Fenway and Minute Maid. I’m thinking the rotation cycle would have to be scrambled a bit for 3 game sets in each, unless it’s BOR RH turns in the regular cycle.
Sure. I wonder if Dunn now has a leg up on Marge to have at least 2 RHers in the rotation. Good question for Divish's mailbag.
FWIW the Angels have a lineup heavy with righthanded hitters Mike Trout, Anthony Rendon, Albert Pujols, Justin Upton and David Fletcher:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/angels

The Astros have righthanded hitters Alex Bregman, Carlos Correa, Jose Altuve and Yuli Gurriel:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/astros

The Athletics have righthanded hitters Matt Chapman, Mark Canha, Ramon Laureano, Sean Murphy, Elvis Anrus and Steven Piscotty:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... /athletics

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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by BaseHitDerby » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm

We are so screwed! There were 38K PAs amongst RHH last season vs 28K for LHH.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/split ... &sort=-1,1

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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by Bil522 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:11 am

harmony wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:41 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:15 pm
Petert wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:12 pm


Probably shorter LF ballparks like Fenway and Minute Maid. I’m thinking the rotation cycle would have to be scrambled a bit for 3 game sets in each, unless it’s BOR RH turns in the regular cycle.
Sure. I wonder if Dunn now has a leg up on Marge to have at least 2 RHers in the rotation. Good question for Divish's mailbag.
FWIW the Angels have a lineup heavy with righthanded hitters Mike Trout, Anthony Rendon, Albert Pujols, Justin Upton and David Fletcher:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/angels

The Astros have righthanded hitters Alex Bregman, Carlos Correa, Jose Altuve and Yuli Gurriel:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/astros

The Athletics have righthanded hitters Matt Chapman, Mark Canha, Ramon Laureano, Sean Murphy, Elvis Anrus and Steven Piscotty:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... /athletics
So you move the left field fences and power alley fences back to where they originally were....end of problem

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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by Petert » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:56 am

Bil522 wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:11 am
harmony wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:41 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:15 pm


Sure. I wonder if Dunn now has a leg up on Marge to have at least 2 RHers in the rotation. Good question for Divish's mailbag.
FWIW the Angels have a lineup heavy with righthanded hitters Mike Trout, Anthony Rendon, Albert Pujols, Justin Upton and David Fletcher:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/angels

The Astros have righthanded hitters Alex Bregman, Carlos Correa, Jose Altuve and Yuli Gurriel:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/astros

The Athletics have righthanded hitters Matt Chapman, Mark Canha, Ramon Laureano, Sean Murphy, Elvis Anrus and Steven Piscotty:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... /athletics
So you move the left field fences and power alley fences back to where they originally were....end of problem
You’d have to totally rebuild Fenway and MM (Houston). LH hitters have had ballparks tailored for them (NY, Detroit, to name a couple). Why not RH ?

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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by TraderGary » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:33 am

Bil522 wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:11 am
harmony wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:41 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:15 pm


Sure. I wonder if Dunn now has a leg up on Marge to have at least 2 RHers in the rotation. Good question for Divish's mailbag.
FWIW the Angels have a lineup heavy with righthanded hitters Mike Trout, Anthony Rendon, Albert Pujols, Justin Upton and David Fletcher:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/angels

The Astros have righthanded hitters Alex Bregman, Carlos Correa, Jose Altuve and Yuli Gurriel:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... rts/astros

The Athletics have righthanded hitters Matt Chapman, Mark Canha, Ramon Laureano, Sean Murphy, Elvis Anrus and Steven Piscotty:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... /athletics
So you move the left field fences and power alley fences back to where they originally were....end of problem
Maybe we could bribe the Red Sox into adding another 50 feet to the Green Monster.

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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:54 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:42 pm
Petert wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:23 pm
I’m pleased that the needle has somewhat flickered over into the right direction regarding strengthening the rotation, although I share SH’s caution about the drop in average fastball velocity.

The $750K bump for reaching 10 starts, though. Oy.

I’m still wondering if there will be an OF add, or if Jerry’s done.
Starting to think they are considering starting the season with JK and if not they are just going to wing it with Haggerty, Long and Marm until he gets here but there is still a week before position players report so who knows.
Its looking that way. There will be some factors to take into consideration of course. Like how Jarred fares in Spring Training and begins the season down in the minors. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in CF with Lewis going to Left if he gets the call in late May or early June.

Marmolejos more than held his own out in LF/RF and has a decent arm, the same with Haggerty. Dylan Moore can eat up some innings out there too.
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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:59 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:37 pm
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Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:26 pm
The Mariners top four starters apparently will be lefthanders Marco Gonzales, James Paxton, Justus Sheffield and Yusei Kikuchi.

Trivia: Of those four lefties, who was the only one who was NOT a Baseball America Top 50 prospect?

Answer: James Paxton, who peaked at No. 52 on Baseball America's Top 100 list in 2012. Gonzales peaked at No. 50 in 2015, Sheffield at No. 27 in 2019 and Kikuchi at No. 45 in 2019.
I must admit it will be cool to face the Yankees with both Sheffield AND Pax in the rotation. Hopefully they both pitch against them back to back and we win both games.
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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:05 am

BaseHitDerby wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm
We are so screwed! There were 38K PAs amongst RHH last season vs 28K for LHH.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/split ... &sort=-1,1
Aren't Gilbert, Kirby, and Hancock all righties?

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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by D-train » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:12 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:05 am
BaseHitDerby wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm
We are so screwed! There were 38K PAs amongst RHH last season vs 28K for LHH.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/split ... &sort=-1,1
Aren't Gilbert, Kirby, and Hancock all righties?
Yes. If they stick with a six man rotation we will have 3 lefties and 3 righties by the end of next season.
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Re: Mariners to sign James Paxton

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:16 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:12 pm
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:05 am
BaseHitDerby wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm
We are so screwed! There were 38K PAs amongst RHH last season vs 28K for LHH.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/split ... &sort=-1,1
Aren't Gilbert, Kirby, and Hancock all righties?
Yes. If they stick with a six man rotation we will have 3 lefties and 3 righties by the end of next season.
According to Dipoto, Logan Gilbert has a chance to make it on the Opening Day roster out of Spring Training. That'd be a pretty formidable rotation upgrade with Paxton and Gilbert from Margevicius and Dunn. Not to mention Haniger and Murphy being back to full health in the lineup.

I may have jumped the gun when I said this season will be shit after losing out on Soria. The acquisition of Paxton was a stroke of genius. I don't see how they bring back Taijuan Walker at this point. Even if he were to take a 1 year discount which is silly, I don't think Seattle would do it. We've got lots of pitching on the cusp of the MLB door. After Gilbert, Kirby will most likely be here in 2022.

George Kirby; Kirby’s two-seamer shows good sink and he stays on top of everything well to maximize spin and break. His slider grades about average and his curveball a bit better, but his changeup has flashed plus and should give him at least one above-average big-league secondary pitch, which pairs well with his fastball command.

The right-hander doesn’t possess the ceiling of an arm like Isaiah Campbell, but his floor is higher and he’s likely to mow down low-level minor leaguers and hit the big leagues at similar rate as Logan Gilbert, who is likely to debut in 2020.

Kirby likely starts 2020 at Class-A West Virginia as a future No. 3 starter, but the polish, command and ability to mix fastballs for additional value offer Kirby a shot to end up a No. 2 in the mold of a Rick Porcello or Chris Carpenter.
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